SouthEnd Midrise Projects

[Reverie39]

It’s great that Charlotte has such a nice skyline that I don’t even find myself actively wishing for more skyscrapers (though I am excited when they do happen). I just want empty or underused spots to fill up with more density (mid-rises are perfect). South End is doing such a good job of it - I hope the same can happen for some of the random parking lots in North Tryon and other parts of Uptown, and maybe eventually extend north of Uptown too. All great cities have an extensive dense urban core like that. Charlotte is on the right track. 

[carolinaboy]

On 2/18/2022 at 8:14 PM, KJHburg said:

Miscellaneous photos of Southend and why this is the fastest developing section of Charlotte.   I do not believe all low rise buildings will be lost especially not the Design Center.   I do not believe this will look like Midtown Atlanta which is almost entirely high rises and basically the north end of downtown ATL.   

I was in SouthEnd Saturday and it was really hopping. You could hear the crowd outside at Sycamore from pretty far away. Also went to Optimist Hall which was also amazingly busy. I enjoyed seeing some of these projects in person. I was surprised how dense/developed it seemed around Optimist Hall.

[KJHburg]

Well an 18 unit condo yes for sale condo complex at New Bern Station.  This should do well if you ask me.  Mid 350s for 1 bedroom. 

https://www.thejanesouthend.com/

Edited February 24, 2022 by KJHburg

[Blue_Devil]

1 hour ago, KJHburg said:

Well an 18 unit condo yes for sale condo complex at New Bern Station.  This should do well if you ask me.  Mid 350s for 1 bedroom. 

https://www.thejanesouthend.com/

I am hoping we get a lot more of these infill Condos. They are much easier to finance. Durham has them popping up all over. 

[KJHburg]

views along South Tryon which I am now dubbing SoTy,  (so -tie )   Charlotte's newest hip area.     Views from SoTy can be good wait until Cousins builds their office and apartment tower on W Tremont a block off SoTy.   Greensboro developer built that mini warehouse building and it actually looks good for one of those.  Carroll Company. 

So some photos along SoTy and a lot of construction is going on. 

[RANYC]

2 hours ago, KJHburg said:

views along South Tryon which I am now dubbing SoTy,  (so -tie )   Charlotte's newest hip area.     Views from SoTy can be good wait until Cousins builds their office and apartment tower on W Tremont a block off SoTy.   Greensboro developer built that mini warehouse building and it actually looks good for one of those.  Carroll Company. 

So some photos along SoTy and a lot of construction is going on. 

SoTy?  Please make it stop

[KJHburg]

NoDa LoSo and my original trademarked idea was LoSE district pronounced Lose  aka Lower South End 

1 hour ago, RANYC said:

SoTy?  Please make it stop

other cities have WeHo LoDo SoHo and the SoDaSoPa area of Southpark okay that one is not real (yet) 

[kermit]

Bland and Church (between Hoppin and Soul Food)

 

[atlrvr]

Flores & Assoc is moving out of their South End home (that they sold last year to Stream Realty) to relocate to Salt + Vinegar office rehab in FreeMoreWest.

Stream owns the entire block bound by S Church, Palmer, S Mint, and Quincy.

Flores was the only tenant at the office complex fronting Church and Woodies operates(past tense?) the auto repair shop along Palmer.

I assume this means a whole-block redevelopment probably happening sooner than later.

[Temeteron]

Should the name of this thread be changed now? :-D

[Blue_Devil]

1 hour ago, atlrvr said:

Flores & Assoc is moving out of their South End home (that they sold last year to Stream Realty) to relocate to Salt + Vinegar office rehab in FreeMoreWest.

Stream owns the entire block bound by S Church, Palmer, S Mint, and Quincy.

Flores was the only tenant at the office complex fronting Church and Woodies operates(past tense?) the auto repair shop along Palmer.

I assume this means a whole-block redevelopment probably happening sooner than later.

Think it will be a midrise, or something taller?

 

[KJHburg]

1 hour ago, Temeteron said:

Should the name of this thread be changed now? :-D

new thread called Gold District High Rises  Stream will build something tall maybe an apartment tower or office tower.  

[RANYC]

1 hour ago, atlrvr said:

Flores & Assoc is moving out of their South End home (that they sold last year to Stream Realty) to relocate to Salt + Vinegar office rehab in FreeMoreWest.

Stream owns the entire block bound by S Church, Palmer, S Mint, and Quincy.

Flores was the only tenant at the office complex fronting Church and Woodies operates(past tense?) the auto repair shop along Palmer.

I assume this means a whole-block redevelopment probably happening sooner than later.

Ugh, a perfectly lovely, tree-lined block with decent building-to-street interaction.  Why not that Electric Supply Co building and. lot fronting Mint first?

[CLT Development]

1 hour ago, atlrvr said:

Flores & Assoc is moving out of their South End home (that they sold last year to Stream Realty) to relocate to Salt + Vinegar office rehab in FreeMoreWest.

Stream owns the entire block bound by S Church, Palmer, S Mint, and Quincy.

Flores was the only tenant at the office complex fronting Church and Woodies operates(past tense?) the auto repair shop along Palmer.

I assume this means a whole-block redevelopment probably happening sooner than later.

I would think this belongs in the High Rise thread, but we shall see. Honestly I was pretty certain Flores would move into a new tower at this site, so I was surprised when they announced their move.

[atlrvr]

I posted here simply because it's currently a mid-rise and I'm unaware of any concrete plans for the redevelopment.

I figured if a substantial was announced, it would get it's own thread then.

 

 

[Hushpuppy321]

7 hours ago, atlrvr said:

I posted here simply because it's currently a mid-rise and I'm unaware of any concrete plans for the redevelopment.

I figured if a substantial was announced, it would get it's own thread then.

 

 

Do you have any idea of what the max ‘by-right’ building height could be for this Lot without needing a Rezoning hearing?  Just curious because I’m not sure if most lots in the Gold District are within that Blanket TOD Rezoning City Council did a few years ago for the Blue Line Corridor.

[atlrvr]

It's TOD-UC, so I think that's 250', plus ways to get bonus height if I'm not mistaken.

[Hushpuppy321]

Do you guys think that Mid-Rise Apartment Construction in SouthEnd will now slow down a bit (next year) because of all the High-Rise Apartments beginning construction this year?

[kermit]

19 minutes ago, Hushpuppy321 said:

Do you guys think that Mid-Rise Apartment Construction in SouthEnd will now slow down a bit (next year) because of all the High-Rise Apartments beginning construction this year?

Not with rents like this (and the associated shortage of for sale housing inventory).

We have been under building population growth for more than two decades, and local growth rates aint declining.

Edited March 15, 2022 by kermit

[atlrvr]

I think mid-rise will slow down because wood-framing costs are through the roof and so is land prices.

High-rise probably more economical to build.  Not suggesting necessarily cheaper, but assuming there is enough demand for the premium rents that high rise units achieve vs mid-rise, I suspect the overall project economics look better for high-rise deals.  

[videtur quam contuor]

If I were looking for apartment housing and budget were flexible I would look first to steel and concrete construction over matchstick palace. Sound attenuation, vibration issues, fire risk and other concerns are less, in my assumptions. I have stayed in accommodations of both types of construction and preferred the  the former.

[Hushpuppy321]

13 minutes ago, tarhoosier said:

If I were looking for apartment housing and budget were flexible I would look first to steel and concrete construction over matchstick palace. Sound attenuation, vibration issues, fire risk and other concerns are less, in my assumptions. I have stayed in accommodations of both types of construction and preferred the  the former.

Back in the day it would’ve been more expensive but I think now the price to build may be similar/comparable as per some of the previous comments on here citing building materials.  I know that those Townhomes being built along West Tremont have all metal framing elements and that surprised me when I visited there last week.

[Richhamleigh, DC]

Came across this from the wayback machine...  10 years ago contemplating the future of South East.  

http://argosadvisors.com/news/sizing-up-charlottes-south-end-by-erik-spanberg-charlotte-business-journal/

[KJHburg]

Midrise apartment complexes rising along South Blvd (Off Broadway shoe site) and along Dunnavant and Hawkins. 

[go_vertical]

Has there been a rendering of the Off Broadway redevelopment released yet?