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Belks first store in late 1800s was in Wadesboro and while this county is one of the poorest in the region I think it will start gaining jobs and manufacturing since access via the Monroe Bypass has opened for warehouses, manufacturing etc and the commute times are already less with the new highway.  

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That courthouse meant a bold and confident wager on the future of the county in 1910 or so by the citizens. The significant expense would have been mortgaged by their future. O for that confidence today. Nonetheless due to the stagnant population the courthouse likely serves adequately for a long time to come, as it must. The jail behind it was replaced by a more contemporary facility.

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I was passing through Pineville today and I thought I would check in on the Cone mill. Much to my surprise, the complex had been completely demoed in the past couple of weeks (debris removal was happening when I passed by).

This really bums me out. It could have been a great reuse space. Shrug, Charlotte's disdain for history runs awfully deep.

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17 minutes ago, tarhoosier said:

My architectural taste is in my mouth. What I know I have learned in the past three months. Viewing photos and then in person and comparing styles has a great educational value. There are many more here who are more well versed. I chose courthouses to feature as they are usually the most prominent building in the city, if not county.

I visit these outlying counties because they are rarely if ever mentioned in the development posts of our board so I wanted to investigate them to see what I could learn. I wanted to feature them here because I thought many others were as unaware as I of these towns which make a part of our  region.

It takes many communities to form an Urban Planet.

Downtown Statesville is great if you have not been there in a while.   I like your road trips! and Shelby is great! 

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Lincolnton is quite nice but Wadesboro, Chester and  Lancaster have the air of desuetude. And Gaffney is between. Dallas is a different thing, of course.

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To follow on with the theme of our overlooked counties in the region I present the near complete vote totals for president: 

Trump  numbers first, Biden last.

5,321.     5,788   Anson

36,167.     13,178  Lincoln

72, 132      40,231 Gaston

30,312      18,937 Lancaster

8,660      6,941. Chester

18,043.     6,983 Cherokee

I added more spaces if that helps

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On 11/10/2020 at 10:19 AM, JorgiPorgi said:

My Favorite Ring City Downtowns: Shelby, Lincolnton and Salisbury.  SHelby, Concord and Salisbury have pretty expansive historic districts. It's not a ring city but if you have a chance to visit downtown Hendersonville, it's worth the drive from I-26. 

Shelby is a gem!  Hendersonville has a great Apple Festival in September!  Lincolnton is the only one I haven't been to yet.

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On 11/10/2020 at 2:40 PM, tarhoosier said:

To follow on with the theme of our overlooked counties in the region I present the near complete vote totals for president: 

Trump  numbers first, Biden last.

5,321.     5,788   Anson

36,167.     13,178  Lincoln

72, 132      40,231 Gaston

30,312      18,937 Lancaster

8,660      6,941. Chester

18,043.     6,983 Cherokee

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I did a little bit more. Not sure if it's indicative of anything useful or not:

  2020 2016 % Δ Trump 2016 to 2020
+ number = Trump improvement
Trump Biden Trump Clinton
Anson            5,321            5,788            4,506            5,859 15.02%
Lincoln          36,167          13,178          28,806            9,897 -16.61%
Gaston          72,132          40,231          61,798          31,177 -18.92%
Union          79,778          48,199          66,707          34,337 -28.75%
Lancaster          30,312          18,937          23,719          13,812 -11.66%
Chester            8,660            6,941            7,265            6,579 14.34%
Cherokee          18,043            6,983          15,167            6,092 9.42%
York          82,727          59,008          66,754          41,593 -20.30%
Mecklenburg        178,921        377,501        155,518        294,562 -5.40%
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6 hours ago, davidclt said:

I did a little bit more. Not sure if it's indicative of anything useful or not:

  2020 2016 % Δ Trump 2016 to 2020
+ number = Trump improvement
Trump Biden Trump Clinton
Anson            5,321            5,788            4,506            5,859 15.02%
Lincoln          36,167          13,178          28,806            9,897 -16.61%
Gaston          72,132          40,231          61,798          31,177 -18.92%
Union          79,778          48,199          66,707          34,337 -28.75%
Lancaster          30,312          18,937          23,719          13,812 -11.66%
Chester            8,660            6,941            7,265            6,579 14.34%
Cherokee          18,043            6,983          15,167            6,092 9.42%
York          82,727          59,008          66,754          41,593 -20.30%
Mecklenburg        178,921        377,501        155,518        294,562 -5.40%

I don't have the numbers, but I think Cabarrus had one of the biggest swings away from Trump.

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53 minutes ago, tozmervo said:

I don't have the numbers, but I think Cabarrus had one of the biggest swings away from Trump.

You're right, Cabarrus wins (Iredell not looking too shabby either):

  2020 2016 % Δ for Trump 2016/2020
+ number = Trump improvement
Trump Biden Trump Clinton
Anson            5,321            5,788            4,506       5,859 15.02%
Lincoln          36,167          13,178          28,806       9,897 -16.61%
Gaston          72,132          40,231          61,798     31,177 -18.92%
Union          79,778          48,199          66,707     34,337 -28.75%
Cabarrus          62,974          51,943          53,819     35,521 -30.28%
Iredell          66,439          33,426          54,754     24,734 -22.61%
Lancaster          30,312          18,937          23,719     13,812 -11.66%
Chester            8,660            6,941            7,265       6,579 14.34%
Cherokee          18,043            6,983          15,167       6,092 9.42%
York          82,727          59,008          66,754     41,593 -20.30%
Mecklenburg        178,921        377,501        155,518  294,562 -5.40%
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Because I was curious, here is the data for all NC sorted by most improved for Trump:

County Trump Biden Trump Clinton % Δ for Trump 2016/2020
+ number = Trump improvement
Robeson 26,012 18,094 20,762 19,016 34.58%
Montgomery 8,411 4,327 7,130 4,150 22.58%
Columbus 16,696 9,382 14,272 9,063 20.48%
Caswell 7,089 4,860 6,026 4,792 20.11%
Scotland 7,473 7,186 6,256 7,319 18.52%
Sampson 17,412 10,962 14,838 10,547 18.16%
Perquimans 4,894 2,485 4,177 2,319 16.82%
Anson 5,321 5,789 4,506 5,859 15.01%
Alexander 15,888 4,145 13,893 3,767 14.50%
Stokes 20,058 5,279 17,116 4,665 13.06%
Richmond 11,830 8,754 10,383 8,501 13.00%
Person 13,184 8,465 11,185 7,833 12.95%
Alleghany 4,527 1,486 3,814 1,306 12.61%
Gates 3,367 2,546 2,874 2,385 11.74%
Bladen 9,676 7,326 8,550 7,058 10.94%
Duplin 13,703 8,676 12,217 8,283 10.45%
Martin 6,532 5,911 5,897 5,846 9.63%
Wilkes 27,591 7,510 23,752 6,638 9.57%
Cleveland 33,798 16,955 28,479 14,964 9.02%
Granville 16,647 14,565 13,591 12,909 9.01%
Warren 3,752 6,400 3,214 6,413 8.51%
Vance 8,391 12,431 7,332 12,229 7.54%
Halifax 9,973 15,382 9,031 15,748 7.49%
Rockingham 30,997 15,811 26,830 14,228 7.48%
Northampton 3,989 6,069 3,582 6,144 7.43%
Edgecombe 9,206 16,089 8,261 16,224 6.30%
Ashe 11,451 4,164 9,412 3,500 6.09%
Greene 4,874 3,832 4,374 3,605 5.86%
Jones 3,280 2,197 2,974 2,065 5.28%
Wilson 19,581 20,754 17,531 19,663 5.19%
Bertie 3,778 5,846 3,456 5,778 4.81%
Pamlico 4,849 2,713 4,258 2,448 4.79%
Pasquotank 9,626 9,653 8,180 8,615 4.77%
Beaufort 16,437 9,633 14,543 8,764 4.69%
Washington 2,991 3,849 2,564 3,510 4.66%
Lee 16,469 12,143 13,712 10,469 4.65%
Franklin 20,904 15,882 16,368 12,874 4.48%
Hertford 3,479 7,097 3,099 6,910 4.17%
Yancey 7,516 3,688 6,385 3,196 4.02%
Chowan 4,471 3,247 4,014 2,992 3.54%
Stanly 25,462 8,133 21,964 7,094 3.46%
Burke 31,019 13,118 26,238 11,251 3.26%
Tyrrell 1,044 758 975 720 2.31%
Camden 4,312 1,537 3,546 1,274 2.21%
Hyde 1,418 1,046 1,288 965 2.09%
Orange 20,176 63,594 18,557 59,923 0.76%
Wayne 30,708 24,216 27,540 21,770 0.30%
Hoke 9,453 11,804 7,760 9,726 0.30%
Surry 27,538 8,721 23,671 7,488 -0.35%
Lenoir 14,590 13,605 13,613 12,634 -0.51%
Cumberland 60,032 84,469 51,265 71,605 -0.52%
Nash 25,827 25,947 23,319 23,235 -0.82%
Durham 32,470 144,754 28,350 121,250 -0.95%
Pender 21,956 11,723 17,639 9,354 -1.28%
Chatham 21,186 26,787 17,105 21,065 -2.11%
Caldwell 32,119 10,245 26,621 8,425 -2.47%
Pitt 38,982 47,252 35,691 41,824 -2.84%
Guilford 106,384 171,538 98,062 149,248 -3.69%
Forsyth 85,060 113,029 75,975 94,464 -5.17%
Mecklenburg 179,220 378,110 155,518 294,562 -5.40%
Harnett 35,177 22,093 27,614 16,737 -5.77%
Haywood 22,834 13,144 18,929 10,473 -7.02%
Wake 226,149 393,254 196,082 302,736 -7.26%
Rowan 49,297 23,114 42,810 19,400 -7.39%
Catawba 56,588 25,689 48,324 21,216 -7.49%
Buncombe 62,253 96,383 55,716 75,452 -9.25%
Jackson 11,356 9,591 9,870 7,713 -9.56%
Randolph 56,589 15,506 49,430 13,194 -9.69%
Moore 36,764 20,779 30,490 16,329 -9.79%
Madison 7,979 4,901 6,783 3,926 -9.97%
Craven 31,032 21,151 27,731 17,630 -10.58%
Polk 7,689 4,518 6,768 3,735 -11.02%
Alamance 46,056 38,825 38,815 29,833 -11.48%
Watauga 14,453 17,125 13,697 14,138 -12.48%
Swain 4,161 2,780 3,565 2,196 -12.66%
New Hanover 63,333 66,146 55,344 50,979 -12.82%
Mitchell 7,090 1,867 6,282 1,596 -13.86%
Davidson 64,658 22,636 54,317 18,109 -14.30%
Brunswick 55,373 32,984 42,720 23,282 -15.61%
Yadkin 15,933 3,763 13,880 3,160 -15.83%
Lincoln 36,341 13,274 28,806 9,897 -17.28%
Graham 3,710 905 3,283 768 -17.53%
Dare 13,938 9,936 11,460 7,222 -18.40%
Rutherford 24,891 9,134 21,871 7,512 -18.64%
Carteret 30,028 12,093 26,569 9,939 -19.01%
Gaston 73,033 40,959 61,798 31,177 -19.91%
Macon 14,211 6,230 12,127 4,876 -20.60%
Onslow 46,078 24,266 37,122 17,514 -22.07%
Transylvania 11,636 8,444 10,520 6,558 -22.61%
Mcdowell 16,882 5,832 14,568 4,667 -22.68%
Iredell 67,010 33,888 54,754 24,734 -23.63%
Clay 5,112 1,699 4,437 1,367 -23.70%
Davie 18,228 6,713 15,602 5,270 -24.52%
Johnston 68,354 41,261 54,372 28,362 -26.04%
Cherokee 12,628 3,583 10,844 2,860 -26.72%
Union 79,778 48,199 66,707 34,337 -28.75%
Cabarrus 63,244 52,167 53,819 35,521 -30.28%
Henderson 40,032 27,211 35,809 19,827 -33.49%
Currituck 11,657 4,195 9,163 2,913 -36.68%
Avery 7,172 2,191 6,298 1,689 -45.54%
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What I find most interesting with the numbers above, are the counties that have large African-American populations and the percentage of voters that actually WENT up for Trump.  Anson County is a glaring example; 52% black and the population has actually declined since the last election.  Robeson County, which is unique in the sense it has a large Native American population (about a 1/3) but a lot of Lumbee people I have met tend to be very conservative in their social and political outlook.

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