casinos in norfolk?

[nsuguy]

https://test.veap.virginia.gov/vastimuluspu...Forwarding=Form It mentions casinos on the waterfront

[varider]

Casinos We nee to make use of all of the water front areas of the state with casinos and riverboats. Of course there would be opponents, but look at the potential job growth, tourist dollars, and tax revenue. It could be a more family friendly version of Atlantic city. I'm sure there are companies willing to put up the money for these projects, lease the land to them for 50 years. Unknown Concept $20,000,000 01/2011 01/2017 Norfolk

[vdogg]

I'm not too found of the idea myself. We spent 50 years getting away from Norfolk's "seedy" image. I think bringing casinos downtown would be a major step backwards.

[urbanlife]

besides, they would make more sense down at the oceanfront where they once were....actually casinos might be a good way to reinvest a ton of money back into Oceanview.

[Mobius57]

[spiker3]

That link didn't work for me, but i'm using Firefox, so i don't know...

Personally, i am a fan. Seeing what Mississippi did after they allowed riverfront gambling, using strict regulation, it could be something spectacular. Also, with no alternative on the east coast closer than Atlantic City, this would be a BOOM for tourism regardless where it was made

[stillill]

Look at Kansas City if you want a good idea about how casinos could work in a city. First off...nothing downtown. Downtown is sacrosanct. It should be classy with no casinos. But there are plenty of other areas in Norfolk where a riverboat casino would make sense. Tidewater dr. and Norview. Maybe Pretty Lake. Good $, good entertainment. I don't think that Norfolk should be a destination for casinos (ala AC), but the closest table games to us is AC, and a lot of people would come spend their money here. I can hear the tour buses now.

[zeppelin14]

Beating a dead and old horse, but:

http://hamptonroads.com/2010/11/norfolk-will-seek-states-approval-riverboat-gambling#comment-1023296

I think a riverboat would look great parked next to the Spirit of Norfolk. While they are at it, build a classy casino where Waterside is at.

[usermel]

Our area needs something to add excitement to it. Nothing worse than being in my field and coming back home(some good to it like a great place to raise a family) to nothing to do other than the movies,bowling and the usual things we do here locally. Friends come to town and imagine saying hey, let's go downtown to the casino for kicks . Then later going to the oceanfront or staying downtown for more entertainment. Just left Miami last week before Thanksgiving on biz and let me tell you, nothing compares to what I saw there to here. Heres better for a family, and theres better for it all. The casino probably wont get approved being the locals here think as our area seems to visitors and folks who left. Boring and predictable.

I'd love to see Norfolk pass Charlotte or equal it even or compete with Atlanta or Miami one day but, as always someone or more than one local politician finds a way to keep Norfolk's metro in the 1960's. The most progressive thing to come here in years has been the light rail and who knows how big that is but, Its a start I hope! The casino's would help change the perception of our area and may lead to businesses that fear locating here seeing that Norfolk isnt as conservative as they 1st thought!!! LGNM

[brikkman]

Our area needs something to add excitement to it. Nothing worse than being in my field and coming back home(some good to it like a great place to raise a family) to nothing to do other than the movies,bowling and the usual things we do here locally. Friends come to town and imagine saying hey, let's go downtown to the casino for kicks . Then later going to the oceanfront or staying downtown for more entertainment. Just left Miami last week before Thanksgiving on biz and let me tell you, nothing compares to what I saw there to here. Heres better for a family, and theres better for it all. The casino probably wont get approved being the locals here think as our area seems to visitors and folks who left. Boring and predictable.

I'd love to see Norfolk pass Charlotte or equal it even or compete with Atlanta or Miami one day but, as always someone or more than one local politician finds a way to keep Norfolk's metro in the 1960's. The most progressive thing to come here in years has been the light rail and who knows how big that is but, Its a start I hope! The casino's would help change the perception of our area and may lead to businesses that fear locating here seeing that Norfolk isnt as conservative as they 1st thought!!! LGNM

I personally would not want to see a land casino in the area, but I also would not vote against it. I think it has its pros and cons. But I'm 100% for riverboat gambling, I think it is an excellent idea to consider. As I suggested on the pilot post regarding the topic, they should consider letting Norfolk try it out for a few years, and then do a study (like they do everything else) and decide what kind of impact it has had on the area. I'm also positive someone would be interested investing in that sort of venture if they were allowed to.

[usermel]

Your idea is excellent sir, maybe you can submit it to the city council, you never know. Great minds dont always think alike but, you can be the great mind that brings forth and idea that works. I feel your idea, a 3-5 year period would be great and after evaluate the progress and the pros and cons. Crime would certainly be an issue I honestly have to admit I would have with casinos! That said, I would vote for it but, if after 5 years or the shorter 3 if I felt it was hurting our city and the metro, then Id even side with the conservatives. That said, great idea fellow member, you should submit it. LGNM

[Telmnstr]

Well, the casinos in downtown Norfolk would be able to capture money from the gov't assisted housing. If Norfolk got it, then Virginia Beach got it, then Virginia Beach could add it to the ocean front, then Norfolk would be empty again.

I've never been to Atlantic City, and I don't know too much about it. Been to Vegas a good number of times and pretty much every casino on the new strip. Also I've been hacking with a friend on a real 90s era IGT slot machine quite a bit. It's pretty interesting. He's done most of the work, which is even better. Right now at the hackerspace in downtown Norfolk there is a skill crane claw game that is online from time to time sitting near the front window. It's going to be replaced by a real slot machine (that is already there and working.) Slot machine is hooked to a computer which plays it over and over. Computer logs the wins/losses to a SQL database. It's very cool, but not pretty. We're going to mount a display there, and have it graph out the payouts, and show the money flow if you had played it. Should be interesting for people walking down Bute Street to look at.

You can actually see it right now at www.justin.tv/solareon

I can't really figure out if I'm for or against gambling. I think outside players would come in, it'd generate lower wage jobs, and the bulk of the money would leave. Casinos are a big industry, and there are big players already. They aren't going to leave behind any extra money.

[zeppelin14]

I don't understand why people are ever against casino's. If you don't like them, don't go to them. As far as crime goes, casino's are safe. There are camera's everywhere and not like it's the 70's where there was crime all over the Atlantic City and Vegas casino's. This would have no more crime than anywhere else in downtown Norfolk (not much) and will create a few hundred jobs.

[VBIllini13]

I don't understand why people are ever against casino's. If you don't like them, don't go to them. As far as crime goes, casino's are safe. There are camera's everywhere and not like it's the 70's where there was crime all over the Atlantic City and Vegas casino's. This would have no more crime than anywhere else in downtown Norfolk (not much) and will create a few hundred jobs.

I agree. Indian reservations with casinos are among the safer places in the west and Midwest because the areas are highly patrolled and there are many safety precautions taken. If Norfolk could mimic the safety measures taken by Indian reservations with casinos and not make the mistakes Tunica, MS made in the 90s with gambling then I believe that gambling in Norfolk could be a very safe and booming industry in the city.

[brikkman]

I agree. Indian reservations with casinos are among the safer places in the west and Midwest because the areas are highly patrolled and there are many safety precautions taken. If Norfolk could mimic the safety measures taken by Indian reservations with casinos and not make the mistakes Tunica, MS made in the 90s with gambling then I believe that gambling in Norfolk could be a very safe and booming industry in the city.

No i agree as well.. Its just, consider the standard NOW? The standard now in law enforcement in the area suggests it would be a bad idea for a land casino. Even if they changed, citizens like me would complain saying why can't you do the same conceptive effort in my side of town. Then we do the dance all over again. So the real task is changing that effort in the way they control crime. I think casinos are safe. I've never felt that they weren't safe when i was in there. But if you look at the impact of casinos on like a place like atlantic city, you get this run down uninviting affect. Now, if you can keep that up so that it doesn't look like that, and give off that feel, then you are winning. Purposely, I think it should never get to that point, but for some reason, the city manage to let sections of the city fall claim to that very notion. There is your problem in a nutshell.......