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Veloise City

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What jbr typed.

Instead of being an active, involved part of it (drawing on the sidewalk, flinging a water balloon or swinging a pillow, interacting with fellow zombies), "participants" are supposed to stand on the street below, watch the airplanes drift down, and sing/play/whistle/hum a tune. (An obscure one at that.)

It is a cute idea. And I've seen Rob's FB queries asking where he could obtain post-consumer recycled paper. But compared with previous events, in which one could actually participate, this one is not in the same league.

(Go ahead and flame me about zombie blood. I have the asbestos suit on.)

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The ONLY thing about this that really appealed to me was the opportunity to stand on top of a building downtown, and now that's been squashed. I agree, I'm really not impressed with this one. And it's going to be just that one tune for half an hour? His favourite tune? Sounds like a bit of a "ME" moment for him more than anything else.

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John E, he doesn't rule out leveraging his Facebook participants to hand him a win at ArtPrize. All I read is that he won't do it super hard through a cheesy manner -- whatever that means. Upwards of 5,600+ people may potentially become directly connected to his art submission. My assumption is that event goers will be far more likely to vote for his submission, because they were apart of it.

Fotoman311, If you were supportive enough to include yourself in his events and were already connected to him via social web means (to which the same model is being applied to ArtPrize) wouldn't that produce the highest potential for voter turnout? Already having the infrastructure in place probably increases his chances for success far greater than other artists.

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John E, he doesn't rule out leveraging his Facebook participants to hand him a win at ArtPrize. All I read is that he won't do it super hard through a cheesy manner -- whatever that means. Upwards of 5,600+ people may potentially become directly connected to his art submission. My assumption is that event goers will be far more likely to vote for his submission, because they were apart of it.

Fotoman311, If you were supportive enough to include yourself in his events and were already connected to him via social web means (to which the same model is being applied to ArtPrize) wouldn't that produce the highest potential for voter turnout? Already having the infrastructure in place probably increases his chances for success far greater than other artists.

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John E Burg

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I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, I'm just pointing out the fact that he said he wouldn't.

I believe he doesn't want to take advantage of his "local phenomonon" network to win ArtPrize. I believe he wants to see how many votes he can get on the event itself. I think Rob Bliss is all about bringing people together to enjoy each other at a cool event. Winning or placing in ArtPrize would be a bonus.

~John

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Veloise City

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A buddy and I were discussing this today. (She's my co-appearer in the water balloon fight TV interview.)

She was looking forward to being atop a building and launching paper airplanes. I did some 'splainin'.

"So we get to stand on the street and watch?" Yep.

Then we started thinking up scenarios. Paper airplanes travel best when launched (go ahead, move your hand in that gesture). Dumping a king-size bedsheet containing a couple hundred will, um, likely not have the desired effect. If it's damp, one big clump of folded paper.

Today I heard the Shelley Irwin interview with Rob. He wants high school band directors to bring their students. "Since it's Sunday, we're hoping that the GRSO members will participate." These statements suggest that Rob is limited in his ensemble playing experience. (Some months back, he messaged me with some vague questions about instrumental music. I wasn't much help, since he was in KIAS mode.)

Another statement he made: no repeats. Sounds like Return of the Zombie Walk would have to be flash-mobbed.

(planning to vote for Nessie at this point)

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GRDadof3 Ecumenopolis

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A buddy and I were discussing this today. (She's my co-appearer in the water balloon fight TV interview.)

She was looking forward to being atop a building and launching paper airplanes. I did some 'splainin'.

"So we get to stand on the street and watch?" Yep.

Then we started thinking up scenarios. Paper airplanes travel best when launched (go ahead, move your hand in that gesture). Dumping a king-size bedsheet containing a couple hundred will, um, likely not have the desired effect. If it's damp, one big clump of folded paper.

Today I heard the Shelley Irwin interview with Rob. He wants high school band directors to bring their students. "Since it's Sunday, we're hoping that the GRSO members will participate." These statements suggest that Rob is limited in his ensemble playing experience. (Some months back, he messaged me with some vague questions about instrumental music. I wasn't much help, since he was in KIAS mode.)

Another statement he made: no repeats. Sounds like Return of the Zombie Walk would have to be flash-mobbed.

(planning to vote for Nessie at this point)

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ccbarnes Unincorporated Area

ccbarnes

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i dunno. seems lame.

kid tries too hard sometimes and this stunt might divert ArtPrize from art.

none of his ideas are unique...they have all been done many many times other places...he's an organizer, not an artist.

I like that he brings fun to GR and shakes things up a bit(which it needs), so I do respect him, but the events are better when he stays behind the scenes and it's more organic.

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Allison Slater Town

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He also doesn't plan to use his contingent of Facebook and other social media followers to his advantage by sending out announcements to vote for his event.

"I'm not going to be trying super hard in a cheesy manner for people to vote for me," Bliss said. "If people like it, they'll vote for it, and that's what matters.

"The work will speak for itself."

Source: http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/grand-r...artprize_p.html

~John

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fotoman311 Burg

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Source: http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/grand-r...artprize_p.html

~John

Just received the following event invitation on facebook:

So now, if we vote for him, we get to have bigger, better events in the future. Seems like a form of bribery to me, as well as going back on what he said before.

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luma Unincorporated Area

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I think the issue with leveraging his fairly large social network to garner votes is that a good portion of the people voting likely didn't even see the event, they're simply voting because he's this wacky guy doing wacky stuff and they like his big facebook page. For an example of how this works out, check out this year's Time Magazine's Most Influential Person poll. The winner (moot) won simply by having an army of voting robots on his side due to the fact that he runs a website with a lot of traffic. Outside of that, he certainly didn't accomplish anything influential this year or any other. If you follow that link, you'll also find a number of strangely unfamiliar names in the top 21 positions, because the same website users rigged the whole thing to spell out an inside joke as simply getting moot in the top position was too easy.

The other concern is that there is serious money on the line, so a kid rolling in to game the system tends to make people a little suspicious of the entire process which doesn't reflect well on the prospects of a similar prize being offered again.

Essentially, it turns "ArtPrize" into "Internet Popularity Prize" which I doubt was the original intention.

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