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Remember the city's wireless internet project?

http://www.ci.grand-rapids.mi.us/wireless

According to the city's last public update the city-wide wireless broadband network was nearly complete as of 6/16/09, but the project was on hold due to a lawsuit over a non-compete agreement by iPCS (a local Sprint reseller). The network is being built by Clearwire, which Sprint owns a 51% stake in.

Well, Sprint announced today their intent to acquire iPCS. The deal should close this quarter, and the iPCS lawsuit should effectively die immediately.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Sprint-Nexte....html/print?x=0

Seeing as though the network is basically already complete, hopefully once the acquisition actually happens (before the end of the year) the city-wide wimax won�t be too far behind.

This is great news for GR!

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Thanks for the great news. WiMax is much different than WiFi. It's like the difference between dial-up and broadband Internet Access.

~John

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WiMax is much different than WiFi. It's like the difference between dial-up and broadband Internet Access.

More like the difference between a cordless phone and a cellular phone - the range is the main difference.

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I had Clearwire when I lived in another city. It was okay...nothing to really go nuts about...but it was definitely cheaper than comcast or charter.

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I had Clearwire when I lived in another city. It was okay...nothing to really go nuts about...but it was definitely cheaper than comcast or charter.

How much was it - out of curiousity?

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Since the deal with Sprint acquiring iPCS has closed and the sale has been approved by the government, where is Clearwire with their WiMax 4G network launch for Grand Rapids?

"Sprint Nextel acquired iPCS for approximately $831 million, including the assumption of $405 million of net debt. Sprint Nextel acquired all of iPCS’s outstanding common shares for $24.00 per share in an all-cash transaction."

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Since the deal with Sprint acquiring iPCS has closed and the sale has been approved by the government, where is Clearwire with their WiMax 4G network launch for Grand Rapids?

"Sprint Nextel acquired iPCS for approximately $831 million, including the assumption of $405 million of net debt. Sprint Nextel acquired all of iPCS’s outstanding common shares for $24.00 per share in an all-cash transaction."

So I call the City about Clearwire (Sprint) and GR says, "we're waiting for Sprint-iPCS deal approved by the govt. Once Sprint has the approvals, we (GR) expect Clearwire to start to deploy WiMax soon after. We haven't heard from Clearwire in a while." Okay, so I call Sprint corporate: "Yes, Sprint closed the iPCS deal, and Sprint received all necessary approvals from the govt in 2009."

Oh Clearwire, where are you???

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^^Deploying their networks in the Detroit and Toledo areas. Not aware of any local activity.

HTH

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http://www.ci.grand-rapids.mi.us/wireless

Update – 2/4/10

Clearwire’s progress had been prohibited due to litigation initiated by iPCS alleging that Sprint violated an agreement which

precluded Sprint, Nextel, and Clearwire from operating a competing wireless service in its territory. On October 19, 2009,

Sprint Nextel and iPCS, Inc. announced an agreement for Sprint to acquire iPCS. The deal was recently closed. Grand

Rapids expects to receive an updated Clearwire WiMAX build/launch timeline in the next few weeks.

We anticipate that this is very good news for Grand Rapids and the region. This deal frees up Clearwire to begin selling

high-speed, 4-G wireless Internet in the region. The Clearwire WiMAX high speed broadband network is nearly complete

with just a few towers and antennae yet to install. We expect that the company will soon return to Grand Rapids to

promptly finish up the network.

......

Market rates for Clearwire WiMax service in the area have not been announced. However, discounted service of $9.95 per

month will be provided to up to 5% of the City’s low-income households who qualify. Clearwire has also agreed to provide

free wifi hot zones throughout the City for visitors and occasional users.

.....

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From MLive: Coming to GR this Summer.

Cost for low-income residents will be about $9.95.

Mainstream packages start at $30 (in general, that is; I don't think this figure was specific to GR)

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For the casual user, I'm unclear how important WiMax will be.

4G cell networks (the ITU-R standard) can provide up to 1Gb/s throughput for stationary devices (your office laptop, for example) and 100Mb/s for moving objects (that iPad running Google maps you clipped to your fixie's handlebars... running the Verizon or Spring 4g mifi device)

Given the availability of those speeds, and the ubiquity of cell plans, will anyone even care when WiMax goes live?

Just wondering what you all think.

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For the casual user, I'm unclear how important WiMax will be.

4G cell networks (the ITU-R standard) can provide up to 1Gb/s throughput for stationary devices (your office laptop, for example) and 100Mb/s for moving objects (that iPad running Google maps you clipped to your fixie's handlebars... running the Verizon or Spring 4g mifi device)

Given the availability of those speeds, and the ubiquity of cell plans, will anyone even care when WiMax goes live?

Just wondering what you all think.

Most 4g networks going forth with be under the LTE standard in the United States.

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Has anyone actually signed up for this yet and started receiving service? If so, how about a first hand review. I checked the coverage map and for some reason, East Hills/Eastown aren't up and running yet.

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I have the HTC Evo 4G.

The speeds are good at about 400-600 kb/s. Latency is what I expect on a wireless connection; average of 100-130ms.

Coverage could and will be better.

As for home internet connection, I would still rather have a wired connection just because I'm a computer nerd but if someone needed a wireless connection for some reason and they only needed it in the coverage area then this is a good service. Not great but good. For the not-so-computer-nerdy I would wait for the coverage to get better.

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