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13 hours ago, Merthecat said:

the city will not go after soccer when they may lose football

No chance Panthers move.  None.  For all the reasons I stated previously plus an owner would pay $1.5 to 2 billion for a team and then have to pay a $500 million to 1 billion relocation fee.  If LA was open I'd be marginally worried.  No available market is remotely as good as this one and none could economically support the purchase price and relocation fee.  Charlotte City Council and Mayor need to stop saying they will do whatever it takes to keep them.  Someone needs to teach a negotiating class to our local politicians.

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1 hour ago, JBS said:

No chance Panthers move.  None.

I agree. But that won't stop the city govt. from bending over for whoever the new owners are.

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As I understand it, the stone wall is part of the plan.  It does appear that the flirtation with MLS and Smith ended up costing them the money from the Independence (unless it really is about control of the facility).

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12 hours ago, JBS said:

As I understand it, the stone wall is part of the plan.  It does appear that the flirtation with MLS and Smith ended up costing them the money from the Independence (unless it really is about control of the facility).

It really is about control of the facility.  The owner of the team was not please at all to not be involved in the funding.  That would have given the Independence pro soccer exclusivity use which USL requires the team to be main tenant/owner of their stadium.  The agreement doesn't implicitly grant them either status with the county taking full control of the funding.  That is why he made the goofy threat of moving to Greensboro after the vote.

For those not keeping up with the USL I hope you don't see MLS not coming as a loss of pro soccer.  While division 2 in this country the league is pushing to operate at a high level and the impending USSF presidential votes could change the structure of the US game to mimic that of the EFL in England.  While pro/rel won't happen with MLS closed system, the leagues below it would become increasingly competitive and potentially as they are able to stand on their own, create a structure much closer to that of the rest of the world than the MLS which mimics the NFL more than anything else.  The drop of talent of the players is the obvious argument of the different levels, but I'd take regional rivals in Charleston, Raleigh, Richmond and Louisville on the outskirts.

Plus check out some of the infrastructure entering the league.  This league sees itself more division 2 like the Championship does in England, not something of a minor league that it gets labeled as.  Long story short, a renovated Memorial with regional rivals in the USL isn't the worst outcome I just hope we get folks to come out to enjoy it.

http://www.uslsoccer.com/news_article/show/859201-sterling-bay-executives-to-bring-usl-to-chicago

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Rio Grande that opened this year

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On 12/21/2017 at 7:36 AM, SouthEndCLT811 said:

For those not keeping up with the USL I hope you don't see MLS not coming as a loss of pro soccer.  While division 2 in this country the league is pushing to operate at a high level and the impending USSF presidential votes could change the structure of the US game to mimic that of the EFL in England.  While pro/rel won't happen with MLS closed system, the leagues below it would become increasingly competitive and potentially as they are able to stand on their own, create a structure much closer to that of the rest of the world than the MLS which mimics the NFL more than anything else.  The drop of talent of the players is the obvious argument of the different levels, but I'd take regional rivals in Charleston, Raleigh, Richmond and Louisville on the outskirts.

Plus check out some of the infrastructure entering the league.  This league sees itself more division 2 like the Championship does in England, not something of a minor league that it gets labeled as.  Long story short, a renovated Memorial with regional rivals in the USL isn't the worst outcome I just hope we get folks to come out to enjoy it.

 

I can buy into what you're selling here as long as the stadium experience is good enough.  I don't know squat about soccer but if there are beers to be had and the event is fun I'll be down.  The biggest concern I have is the stadium renderings will almost guarantee that I won't go to the game.  Not only do I notice that concourses are missing (i.e. places to purchase said beer) but I don't see an ounce of shade.  No way in hell am I going to sit in the North Carolina sun for a few hours, sober, watching a sport I have little interest in.  

The lack of a canopy and concourses on the new stadium has me feeling that it's a giant waste of money.  I'd rather them double the budget and do it right.  

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23 minutes ago, cjd5050 said:

The lack of a canopy and concourses on the new stadium has me feeling that it's a giant waste of money.  I'd rather them double the budget and do it right.  

I'm inclined to agree.  I also think the Matthews Sportsplex is very adequate as a venue for a few years.   

 

32 minutes ago, cjd5050 said:

No way in hell am I going to sit in the North Carolina sun for a few hours, sober, watching a sport I have little interest in. 

Most games are in the evening.  They brought in food trucks in Matthews and sold alcohol at the games.   

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20 hours ago, Jack152 said:

To hell with it.  Bring indoor soccer back to Bojangles' Coliseum and call it good. 

Major Arena Soccer League

Goodness, that brings back great memories... growing up in Kansas City, we went to KC Comets games when they played in the Major Indoor Soccer League. They’d pull in 14,000 plus in attendance, it was awesome. 

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34 minutes ago, JoshuaDrown said:

Goodness, that brings back great memories... growing up in Kansas City, we went to KC Comets games when they played in the Major Indoor Soccer League. They’d pull in 14,000 plus in attendance, it was awesome. 

The Sockers dominated MISL and usually drew a decent crowd to the old San Diego Sports Arena.  Best part was you kept the balls that were kicked into the stands.

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