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36 minutes ago, IAmFloridaBorn said:

Thats a little neglectful of the heaviest Lynx route. That proposed route through RIo Grande was splendid. That 32839/32805 zip codes carry tons of passengers commuting to I Drive area. That originally route isn't as neglectful as what you propose.

I should clarify that I I don’t know the commuting habits of specific neighborhoods. I was just thinking that the area immediately west of downtown should be connected to the system.

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On 9/16/2018 at 11:36 AM, spenser1058 said:

The Orlando City Council will vote tomorrow on a one-year pilot to bring dockless bike sharing by Lime to town:


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/orange/os-orlando-bike-share-no-rack-20180914-story.html

From the Sentinel

They’re a nightmare in other cities. Residents and city officials hate them. People drop the bikes wherever they want, causing a disorderly mess in roads and sidewalks, at parks and stores, without any regard for propriety or pedestrians. In some cities, there are IG posts dedicated to innovative ways of destroying the bikes, like leaving them up trees, in city garbage cans, on top of buildings etc.

Dockless bikes haven’t  worked in far too many other cities; I don’t expect the swell residents of Orlando to be any better.

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I’m on the fence.   I the technology is there to use geofencing and fees to make users put the bikes in certain areas and not in others.   If non-users/random passerby’s are putting bikes in places they shouldn’t be, that’s a job for law enforcement to an extent or property maintenance.

I’ve heard stories of these companies dropping hundreds of bikes on a city and while I’m sure that has been done as a disruptive way to use investment dollars by someone who has no business staying in business, I can’t believe that will keep happening.   It’s just not a real business model.

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15 hours ago, Uncommon said:

They’re a nightmare in other cities. Residents and city officials hate them. People drop the bikes wherever they want, causing a disorderly mess in roads and sidewalks, at parks and stores, without any regard for propriety or pedestrians. In some cities, there are IG posts dedicated to innovative ways of destroying the bikes, like leaving them up trees, in city garbage cans, on top of buildings etc.

Dockless bikes haven’t  worked in far too many other cities; I don’t expect the swell residents of Orlando to be any better.

Sounds like you're describing cars, which are a real hassle for cities. Dockless bikes are great for people who need them, i.e. myself. Orlando will never stop being car-dependent if we reject new technology for last mile trips. The docked bikeshare doesn't help me because their are no stations in Lake Underhill. Dockless bikes NOW!

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3 hours ago, Naqiy90 said:

Sounds like you're describing cars, which are a real hassle for cities. Dockless bikes are great for people who need them, i.e. myself. Orlando will never stop being car-dependent if we reject new technology for last mile trips. The docked bikeshare doesn't help me because their are no stations in Lake Underhill. Dockless bikes NOW!

As a sunbelt city, Orlando will never stop being car-dependent either way lol. Hoping it will is sort of a fantasy.

As far as stations go, most in other cities I’ve been to were located near or around downtown or other extremely high traffic areas. Not sure what your plan is if that’s the case. You’d have to walk or get a ride downtown to rent a bike and then ride it back all the way near Lake Underhill. Do you live near the suburbs? Not sure that’s the demographic these bikes are being marketed toward.

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3 minutes ago, Uncommon said:

As a sunbelt city, Orlando will never stop being car-dependent either way lol. Hoping it will is sort of a fantasy.

As far as stations go, most in other cities I’ve been to were located near or around downtown or other extremely high traffic areas. Not sure what your plan is if that’s the case. You’d have to walk or get a ride downtown to rent a bike and then ride it back all the way near Lake Underhill. Do you live near the suburbs? Not sure that’s the demographic these bikes are being marketed toward.

Barley and Vine has a Juice Station as well as the Curry Ford Winn Dixie.  If they have it, I don't see why Lake Underhill Park wouldn't have it.

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3 minutes ago, codypet said:

Barley and Vine has a Juice Station as well as the Curry Ford Winn Dixie.  If they have it, I don't see why Lake Underhill Park wouldn't have it.

Naqiy posted that there are no stations near Lake Underhill, hence why he/she would want the dockless stations. If there are plans to add a station near Lake Underhill, then the problem becomes moot. But if there are no plans, the problem still exists: having to go out of one’s way to rent a bike.

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On 9/18/2018 at 8:45 AM, Uncommon said:

Naqiy posted that there are no stations near Lake Underhill, hence why he/she would want the dockless stations. If there are plans to add a station near Lake Underhill, then the problem becomes moot. But if there are no plans, the problem still exists: having to go out of one’s way to rent a bike.

Lake Underhill is two miles from Downtown, most definitely not the suburbs. There would probably be bikes in my apartment complex because so many people would use them to ride around Lake UnderHill, plus if no one else used them I could use the same bike every day by just dropping it outside my apartment. Dockless bike shares are part of the future of mobility, we must accept innovation, not be luddites that harm community members most in need by banning bikes that would help the transit dependent population in Orlando.

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Dockless bikes have had many issues in other cities but I think many of those issues result from inappropriate use by users. I think we have an opportunity in Orlando to learn from cities like Beijing, LA, Houston, and Tokyo to see what works and what doesn't. 

The biggest issue seems to be bikes just being dropped anywhere. This tells me we need to work on better and larger bike storage options. 

Also, not to sound negative but I doubt Orlando will see the issues other cities have faced simply because even if bikes were free and readily available I doubt many here would choose bikes over other transit options (mostly due to weather).  

IMO dockless bikes could work better here than many places simply because I don't see the numbers here to make them an issue. I hope they do cause bike use to increase here and thus push the city/county even more towards helping make our community more pedestrian friendly. 

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On ‎9‎/‎17‎/‎2018 at 1:24 PM, Uncommon said:

They’re a nightmare in other cities. Residents and city officials hate them. People drop the bikes wherever they want, causing a disorderly mess in roads and sidewalks, at parks and stores, without any regard for propriety or pedestrians. In some cities, there are IG posts dedicated to innovative ways of destroying the bikes, like leaving them up trees, in city garbage cans, on top of buildings etc.

Dockless bikes haven’t  worked in far too many other cities; I don’t expect the swell residents of Orlando to be any better.

UCF got them this semester and they have been found in the 4th floor of parking garages,blocking doorways,  dumpsters, classroom, hanging from the ticket booth ceiling  @ the CFE arena...…… half of our reddit page hates them. its literally the joke of the school 

I agree with @klstorey, if there were appropriate docks, it'll be a win-win situation 

 

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17 hours ago, W7edwin said:

UCF got them this semester and they have been found in the 4th floor of parking garages,blocking doorways,  dumpsters, classroom, hanging from the ticket booth ceiling  @ the CFE arena...…… half of our reddit page hates them. its literally the joke of the school 

I agree with @klstorey, if there were appropriate docks, it'll be a win-win situation 

 

The half of UCF that complains about them probably drive everywhere and complain about parking nonstop. Honestly, I don't even think people who drive should get a say in the matter, until we ban cars i'm fighting to keep dockless bikes in Orlando!

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