Downtown Orlando Project Discussion

[orlandoguy]

The Fiat is going to be a brewery [emoji4]

Buried in this column about Clean the World is a mention that the Fiat brewery/pizzeria at Orange & Jefferson is dead. Apparently the developer is moving on and targeting the CTW facility on Pittman instead.

As I've been watching the build-out of the retail spaces on either side of Cafe Annie the last few months, I was hopeful the relocated Wells Fargo was somehow going to share this space with the brewery. Guess not.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/brinkmann-on-business/os-clean-the-world-site-20161130-story.html

[JFW657]

2 hours ago, orlandoguy said:

Buried in this column about Clean the World is a mention that the Fiat brewery/pizzeria at Orange & Jefferson is dead. Apparently the developer is moving on and targeting the CTW facility on Pittman instead.

As I've been watching the build-out of the retail spaces on either side of Cafe Annie the last few months, I was hopeful the relocated Wells Fargo was somehow going to share this space with the brewery. Guess not.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/brinkmann-on-business/os-clean-the-world-site-20161130-story.html

There was talk for a very short while, about CTW building a possibly 10 story building on or adjacent that site. Never went anywhere, of course.

[Jernigan]

Brew City at the CTW facility is on the January MPB agenda

[popsiclebrandon]

Risky move but guessing he will buy the building which makes much more sense I'm sure. Just not going to get the traffic over there for a few years. 

Also quite behind on the coffee roaster idea. Already have Coffee Roaster Alliance which is enormous and does just about every restaurant, Foxtail, Credo, Axum and Lineage all roasting their own coffee in Orlando.

[Jernigan]

Pabal Brewing Company applied for a permit in the Fiat building on 11/21.   Wells Fargo was already in motion so perhaps we are getting both.

 

[Jernigan]

First Green Bank's name was installed on the former Old Southern Bank building at 250 N Orange Ave today.

[Jernigan]

ARB Staff report for trail overpass on 50 with renderings 

 

http://www.cityoforlando.net/city-planning/wp-content/uploads/sites/27/2016/12/ARB2016-00070report.pdf

[JFW657]

Never been real wild about that single curved suspension bridge tower thing. 

Would rather have seen them do something more similar to the I-4 overpass down near I-Drive & Kirkman.

Or on the 408 over Lake Underhill.

Get a theme going.

Edited December 10, 2016 by JFW657

[prahaboheme]

The I-4 Ultimate designs will have harmony with the recently completed interchanges down in that area such as the Millenia Conroy bridge. In fact, I believe the Colonial interchange while have similar ornamental elements.

 

[Jernigan]

Yes the beacon looking things at Conroy  Will be duplicated along the  project as visual indicators of exits you can enter or exit the express lanes 

[dcluley98]

I think it looks great, personally.  Something that stands out is key for a project like this.  It needs to be visible from I-4 and Colonial and Sunrail to draw attention to the fact that there is an alternative transportation pedestrian bike route (the OUT) that goes directly to the core of downtown.  It is as much an advertisement for our city as a functional bridge!

Really excited to see this project unfold!

 

Edited December 10, 2016 by dcluley98

[alex]

I hope this bridge gets the City moving to finish the trail connectors. There are still big chunks of the OUT and Gertrude's Walk missing.

[John Hargrove]

The bridge is still not even getting started until I-4 is complete in that section, right?

If I recall I'd not be able to use this trail for SEVERAL more years. I'd given up on thinking about it.

[JFW657]

I don't see why they'd have to wait until the I-4 project is finished, as I'm fairly certain they know to within a couple of inches or so, the distance which the widening is going to extend outward to. IOW, I can't see how one might potentially encroach upon the other. Unless it's a money issue, but that doesn't make a lot of sense either, assuming they are two separate projects.

Seems like if they had to wait for anything related to the I-4 project, it would only be the completion of the downtown portion.

Of course I could be completely wrong. I think that might have happened once.

[UngaBungalow]

Colonial is being widened as part of the whole "Ultimate Colonial" project, a part of Ultimate I-4. So that stretch will have some major access issues as they widen both the road and the interchange. From what I understand, that's why they're waiting until that mess is done before tackling the ped bridge. 

[metal93]

The whole I-4 Ultimate is supposed to be 7 years (6 from now), with the I-4/408 interchange taking the longest to complete. Some sections will be done sooner than others. The Colonial interchange may be completed sooner than we think.

The bridge looks good though, reminds me of the Cross-Seminole Trail bridge over I-4 between Lake Mary and Sanford.

[Jernigan]

Panera at Lake Eola is closing in about a month or two.

They do well so I'm curious to see if it's a sign of a choice tenant coming in or if it could mean bigger things (East on Park) 

[steve_o]

1 hour ago, Jernigan said:

Panera at Lake Eola is closing in about a month or two.

They do well so I'm curious to see if it's a sign of a choice tenant coming in or if it could mean bigger things (East on Park) 

Unfortunately, neither.  For now. 

[prahaboheme]

I think that would be an ideal location for a 7-11.

[Jernigan]

1 hour ago, steve_o said:

Unfortunately, neither.  For now. 

Don't leave us hanging!

[spenser1058]

1 hour ago, prahaboheme said:

I think that would be an ideal location for a 7-11.

You can never have too many 7-Elevens (Retail Development Policy of our beloved DDB)

[AndyPok1]

I will say that for whatever reason that Panera has never appealed to me.  I've lived downtown for almost 4 years now and haven't been there more than 4 times.  And it's only .9 mile away.. when I lived in Ohio and was .9 miles from a Panera, I walked there at least once or twice a month.

I think it is because it's in a desert.  There's nothing remotely near it.

[spenser1058]

I live 1 block away and tend to forget it's there. It's just easier to order a Publix sub online and wander over to the Paramount.

[tennis32801]

Having a well known chain eatery in that corner helps balance the foot traffic at the park. Without it, that part of the park will fill abandoned. I used to worked across from it for 10 years, and it definitely was a plus.

[prahaboheme]

I tend to agree - for nostalgic purposes, I'll be sad to see it go (even if I didn't frequent it much lately).  When it first opened, a friend and I would often spend many an hour there during high school cramming for exams.  Fond memories.