Downtown Orlando Project Discussion

[Jernigan]

OBJ reporting that Hourglass Brewery is doing something in downtown Orlando.   Can't access article - can anyone else read it and share if there is a location or any hints?

[bqknight]

Baoery is closing.

https://www.scottjosephorlando.com/news/3849-baoery-closing

[AndyPok1]

2 hours ago, bqknight said:

Baoery is closing.

https://www.scottjosephorlando.com/news/3849-baoery-closing

I... never understood what vibe Baoery was going for.  They randomly have signs up saying they have beer pong, but close at 10PM.  Food was decent though.

[sunshine]

They slap some chinese food on some dough wrap and called it asian fusion. Hopefully something actually good go in there. Like a real indian restaurant....

Since this is Orlando, the new restaurant probably serve taco, beers and pizza.

[bqknight]

57 minutes ago, sunshine said:

They slap some chinese food on some dough wrap and called it asian fusion. Hopefully something actually good go in there. Like a real indian restaurant....

Since this is Orlando, the new restaurant probably serve taco, beers and pizza.

....

You mean, they made Bao - which is Asian food on some dough. It wasn't Asian Fusion - it was just an Asian Gastropub, which I thought it did very well. The meals I had there were always quite good - especially at the price point. Their bibimbap was also really good. 

There is another Bao place btw - King Bao - which is also quite tasty. 

South Eola just seems like a tough place for a restaurant, unless you're already well established. 

[popsiclebrandon]

6 hours ago, bqknight said:

Baoery is closing.

https://www.scottjosephorlando.com/news/3849-baoery-closing

This is the restaurant I posted about likely closing a week or two ago. King Bao came in and ate their lunch with a price point that made sense for what bao is. I think they are right that a smaller space would have worked. 

That building is quite empty now.

[Jernigan]

New GrowthSpotter article has the scoop on OMA looking at the gravel lot on the SE corner of Orange and Anderson!   Adjacent to DPAC, aloft etc 

[nite owℓ]

In summary for those who hit the paywall:

Apparently OMA is using Tavistock Development Company to assist with site selection, forming an LLC named TDC Downtown. A draft zoning verification letter was submitted by CNL Dickenson (who currently owns the gravel lot property) and TDC Downtown to the city indicating a mixed use project with "an understanding that the developer is planning a 450,000-square-foot building with approximately 375 parking spaces for office, residential and retail uses. ...But when contacted by GrowthSpotter, Tavistock Spokeswoman Jessi Blakely said the zoning verification was related to the OMA site selection process. "As part of our agreement with OMA, we are constantly reviewing and conducting due diligence on various pieces of property downtown," she said." A city spokeswoman states they have not received any plans related to a museum project at that site, and that the zoning verification letter is still being revised.

Edited March 29, 2017 by nite owℓ
Cleaning up typos etc

[JFW657]

34 minutes ago, nite owℓ said:

In summary for those who hit the paywall: ...when contacted by GrowthSpotter, Tavistock Spokeswoman Jessi Blakely said the zoning verification was related to the OMA site selection process. "As part of our agreement with OMA, we are constantly reviewing and conducting due diligence on various pieces of property downtown," she said." A city spokeswoman states they have not received any plans related to a museum project at that site, and that the zoning verification letter is still being revised.

Still, something to hope for.

[sunshine]

hmmm 1 acre lot....where are they going to squeeze in my grand entrance with a giant atrium....seem later small to be grand building.  Not to mention it will be completely blocked from sight when the round building lot is built out...

[jack]

They would probably buy the entire block though that would be very expensive. 

[smileguy]

12 minutes ago, jack said:

They would probably buy the entire block though that would be very expensive. 

With Tavistock in the game, I think they'd be looking at a bigger, multi-use development. Tavistock makes their buck and OMA gets a new home... win-win.

[sunshine]

But with Anderson hotel there and the old folks high rise...it is challenging to get that entire section.

[Dale]

Maybe Tavistock can do something that Lincoln can't ?

[popsiclebrandon]

So Tavistock going to get a piece of land to put some retail and maybe residential and OMA gets a cheaper piece of prime downtown real estate? All going to come down to where this actually goes and how it looks but that is an exciting partnership. 

[prahaboheme]

I would much prefer that they build out the DPAC south parcel (or even north parcel) to give the OMA some outdoor breathing room.

However, one potential option by using the Orange/Anderson SE parcel would be to humanize Anderson street (similar to Church outside the Amway).  Perhaps this would also allow for potential expansion onto the DPAC parcel across the street, via a bridge, at a later time.  If this is the intention, then I think this plan would be a win and a great public/private partnership.

2 hours ago, Dale said:

Maybe Tavistock can do something that Lincoln can't ?

Tavistock certainly does not shy away from large scale development, and with their deep pockets and local connections, they may be able to help OMA gain a higher regional profile.

It would be nice to see them bring their very successful formula downtown.

[jack]

3 hours ago, sunshine said:

But with Anderson hotel there and the old folks high rise...it is challenging to get that entire section.

The hotel site would be acquired and Bowyer's old building would go. 

[popsiclebrandon]

Keep in mind that Joe Lewis who owns Tavistock has a personal art collection worth $1 billion. If he would loan some of the pieces that would increase the OMA profile significantly. 

[prahaboheme]

1 hour ago, jack said:

The hotel site would be acquired and Bowyer's old building would go. 

So essentially, the entire block bound by Orange, Anderson, Magnolia and the 408 would become the Tavistock/OMA mixed-use.

[jliv]

1 hour ago, popsiclebrandon said:

Keep in mind that Joe Lewis who owns Tavistock has a personal art collection worth $1 billion. If he would loan some of the pieces that would increase the OMA profile significantly. 

 

http://www.tavistock.com/art/

Not insignificant.  

[bulldogger]

Not sure where to post this, so here goes.  This is a pic of the I-4 construction at Lake Ivanhoe.  I also grabbed a screenshot from a video on the I-4 Ultimate website which only seems to show perhaps a retention pond in this place.  What is that solid concrete tower that is higher than I-4 itself?

 

[Jernigan]

Photos of 131 N Orange.   

Suite 101 - Insomnia Cookies - open and delicious

Suite 102 - not leased 

Suite 103 - Hubbly Bubbly - sign up but still is a mess inside 

Suite 104 - Old Cafe Annie, will be a Burger Craft - currently empty with a Stop Work Order sticker (no picture)

Suite 105 - Wells Fargo - looks like they will be ready to open many accounts for you soon

Suite 106 - Orange County Brewers - a lot of work going on inside 

Edited March 31, 2017 by Jernigan

[Dale]

Nice!

[dcluley98]

Tavistock is flexing muscle in Lake Nona.  I would love them to bring that downtown. You will hear a lot about developments from them in this cycle.

[metal93]

Isn't the SE corner of Orange and Anderson where the CNL III garage was proposed? It's great that OMA might finally be coming downtown but I was really hoping for them to go either the SE corner of Orange and South or near/within Lake Eola Park.

Any word on the hotel proposal on Magnolia and Anderson? If the entire block of Orange, Anderson, Magnolia, and 408 is torn down, that could mean some kind of hotel/parking/OMA development going there, right? If OMA is indeed building on that site, then it'd be really cool to see if they could do an outdoor art exhibit underneath the 408, and even going up to the shore of Lake Lucerne, maybe build a deck out there or something. That area underneath the 408 is underutilized and has potential, it can become another bridge district, an art-based one to complement the more recreational-based one proposed under I-4.