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I love that in the Appearance Review Board Agenda it states that the new building will be built, "across the street from the courthouse, by the cul de sac parking area on Magnolia." No need for a block and lot number in Orlando, yet.

Actually the ARB only mentioned the address. What I wrote in parenthesis was just my description of the the location to avoid confusion with the other grassy patch of land accross the street. I used landmarks for anyone not familiar with the address. :blush: But I'm pretty sure the MPB mentions the actual parcel ID... and doesn't include directions like "take 230 steps from Lake Eola heading North on Rosalind St, follow the bend and make a left at the 2nd oak tree".

I'm a little surprised by the lack of streetfrontage (sp?) in the O+C project. Also, is Mama B's holding out? Do you guys think this will play out like the Mills Park development staring down the cash transponder store?

Also from the MPB: is this anything to get excited about? This block has a set of small 1-story block homes, very very different from the emerging midrise neighborhood growing around it. I know they were up for sale in the last year at one point.

EOLA/JACKSON PROPERTIES (SKOMSKY ET AL)

Applicant: Hal H. Kantor - Lowndes, Drosdick, Doster, Kantor and Reed

Owners: Paul J. Skomsky (225 S. Eola Dr.); Heart to Heart (608 Mariposa St.); Marjorie H. Fain Trust (601 E. Jackson St.); Neil Beckingham (609 E. Jackson St.).

Location: 225 S. Eola Dr.; 608 Mariposa St.; 601 E. Jackson St.; 609 E. Jackson St., located south of Mariposa St., east of S. Eola Dr., north of E. Jackson St., and west of S. Summerlin Ave. in the South Eola neighborhood (+0.5 acre).

District: 4

Project Planner: Jenny Wheelock, (407-246-3145, [email protected])

A) GMP2012-00005*

Amend the Future Land Use on the subject properties from Residential Medium Intensity to Residential High Intensity.

B) ZON2012-00003**

Rezone subject properties from R-3B/T and R-3B/T/AN to MXD-2/T and MXD-2/T/AN.

Recommended Action: Approval of the requests, subject to the conditions in the staff report.

No new development is being proposed. Basically the current use of one of the properties is a non-conforming office building in a residential area. Instead of trying to rezone a single property, it's better to join with neighbors to apply for a zoning change from multifamily to mixed use. At the very least, this will increase the land value, but maybe the aggregated parcels will attract a developer in the future. The property for sale you mentioned is on the other half of that block, fronting Summerlin Ave. The site is being marketed as "The Carriage House", a 108 bed assisted living facility. Here's a flyer with more info/pics.

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My friend grabbed some shots of downtown while flying into ORL. This one really shows how the I-4/408 interchange is coming along.  Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

I think Lake Eola Park is one of the best urban parks in the country.  Today.  Haven't been to Orlando in 10 years or more and there is a lot more life downtown and around this park.  Great to see an

That was in the latest ARB report as well: http://www.cityoforlando.net/city-planning/wp-content/uploads/sites/27/2018/03/ARB2017-10009reportMarch2018.pdf Here is the new rendering:  A

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A nice sign of life for downtown retail...I was downtown on Saturday and saw that locally-owned Obsession Boutique has re-opened in its former location on E. Central right next to Eola Wine Co. Not sure when that happened, but glad to see they are back in business. Menchies fro-yo is also open at the Paramount, with the Pure Salon on the horizon. That means that entire block will be occupied soon.

I didn't get a chance to run by 101 Eola...is Aura Bar making any progress? Before I moved I noticed that there was more working going on in front of that space so it looked like it was finally making progress.

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The MPB for this month has been posted. I've included a little info on the earlier proposals, now vs then, just to show how plans have changed. These are the current renderings & links to the agenda:

O+C Hotel

8 story, 132 room hotel with 4,000 sq ft ground floor commercial space and a 156 space integrated parking garage

Still being considered Phase 2 of the Camden Orange Court Development

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O+C Office/Retail

The original proposal in 2005 was Phase 2 of Camden Court with an office component facing Colonial Dr

Proposal amended in 2006 to develop a12 story mixed use building with 10,009 sq ft commercial space + 143,820 sq ft office space and a 430 space parking garage

SKYHOUSE APARTMENTS

23 story, 320 apartment building with 8,232 sq ft ground floor retail space and a 471 space, 8 story stand-alone parking garage

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MAGNOLIA CIRCLE CONDOS

Original proposal was for a 30 story building with 200 condo units, 13,000 sq ft retail/restaurant space and a 384 space integrated parking garage (on floors 2-7)

Ok. I'm actually excited for the 23 story building Skyhomes orSkyview or whatever. I looked it up the height for Skyplace is 347 Ft.

Magnolia Circle was only going to be 327 Ft.

The height of the O&C Hotel is 87 Ft. Not Bad.

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According to their social media, the Downtown Orlando World of Beer is "official."

Location hasn't been mention - but the timing certainly jives with the permitting for outdoor seating on Lake Eola by Post Parkside - where it was originally rumored to go...

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I was really hoping for more of a central terminal vibe there rather than an apartment complex like this. Who in the heck is going to live there? I think they are going to have a hard time filling that place. I'd rather live at the Steel House rather than on top of a bus terminal with all the bus users milling about the grounds.

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I'm not sure if someone uploaded these already, but here are a few conceptual massing model images of Rida Development's Central Station. The images were taken from an easement agreement between Lynx & Rida:

^^^^ EXTREMLY Disappointed. Was hoping for a high rise especially on this lot. I hope this project fails.

I was really hoping for more of a central terminal vibe there rather than an apartment complex like this. Who in the heck is going to live there? I think they are going to have a hard time filling that place. I'd rather live at the Steel House rather than on top of a bus terminal with all the bus users milling about the grounds.

I'd live here before I live at steelhouse. Better access to transit and not living on a huge roadway. It's the dumbest project I've seen in a while in Orlando.

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These renderings show street level apartments and large parking garages with no visual focus. Both of these things were items I thought the city requested to be changed. Also wasn't the middle of the property supposed to be larger to match the courtyard in front of the courthouse?

These renderings are a let down compared to the former proposals for that site.

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For a lot with so much potential this is truly a let down. And what is with the suburban drop-off lane that cuts right through the center of the plot?

This is not designed with sound urban principles in mind. I really do hope this is just a sketch, and not to be taken seriously.

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Yea, that 1.5 mile has to be a typo. Two questions, why dont they just have the building be on top of the garage? And why is the height limit set at 347 ft per FAA? Isnt the courthouse taller than that? Nevertheless, excited that any highrises are being proposed. Hope that Rida site doesnt get built, what a waste for that space.

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Thank you guys, it was 0.3 miles. Now that i have graduated, I hope I get more time to update the blog regularly. The Orange County Courthouse I believe is rough 400-450ft. I agree with you guys on the Rida development, however when it was proposed they did say it will be mid-rise. Also it does not look anywhere near what it did with its initial rendering.

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Thank you guys, it was 0.3 miles. Now that i have graduated, I hope I get more time to update the blog regularly. The Orange County Courthouse I believe is rough 400-450ft. I agree with you guys on the Rida development, however when it was proposed they did say it will be mid-rise. Also it does not look anywhere near what it did with its initial rendering.

Yep, the new rendering looks far more toned down and boring by comparison. I remember people hoping for something more urban and less South Florida than that original rendering, however the new one looks devoid of any character. I really hope those new renderings are not the final product.

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I'm disappointed to see the scaled back plans for RIDA (as well as Mills Park for that matter) but it's just the market we are in. We all have common interests on here but at the end of the day we aren't laying out the cash, we're not reading the data and most of us acknowledge we wouldn't be a customer for many of these things we'd like to have in our city.

I don't think I'd ever hope for any of these projects to fail - we can only go up from there. But we'll never go anywhere if things are stagnant.

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I suppose the benefit of the Rida project scaling back is that while it's losing height, it's still occupying a city block in downtown, which just increases the value of property around it ... and will ultimately lead to increased pressure to go vertical. That said, it looks like we're having our first real push for another apartment high-rise downtown. It has been too long... if they break ground on a 23-floor tower before the end of the year I'd be very excited.

Think about it like this: in 2.5 years as we're approaching 2015, and obsessives like myself are hopefully still posting on these boards, we may be reflecting on a period of huge success for downtown. SunRail, Church Street Station, Lynx station, Skyhouse, DPAC, new Lymmo routes, Cambria suites, Rida (hopefully improved), the old OUC building open as a Starwood Aloft property, Ustler's new hotel near 50, and possibly a new entertainment / sports / hotel complex on the west side of I-4 for Amway Center.

That's just in the CBD, and it's only projects that are already assured to happen or have a great deal of likelihood. Let's pray for a strong recovery going into 2013. I'm optimistic.

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Just for fun, a pic of progress at Steel House:

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Steelhouse, yet all wood. FAIL of a project FAIL FAIL FAIL But noooo everybody in Orlando wanted this. Am I the only one that Despises this project?

Also, a lot of steel going up at the DPAC. More at the construction cam website.

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DPAC is impressive. Im excited for it.

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