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Editorial: Pittsburgh Subway Tunnels Make Sense

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Thats the Transportation blotter by Joe Grata, Nice! It clarifies how much pork is actually rolling out of Washington for us, thank you Senators Santorum and Spector lol. Now all we need is Ted Kennedy to add another 0 to all that so we can have the "big dig" Pittsburgh style!

As far as using the rail bridge I have heard the argument that its too old and could cost just as much BUT the one redeming factor on the rail bridge was that it would provide a "direct connect" to the new convention center and then could be wound around the northshore to serve the same stadiums as the extension from Gateway Center. As of now its a 3 or 4 block walk for first time visitors to Pittsburgh FROM the convention center to the subway system, thats kinda bad.

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Most are some aren't, government is so bloated sometimes it is wasteful, and as far as the "projects" go, paying taxes for them is a big pain in the neck for most Americans . . . unless of course the project helps out your hometown. As the former Speaker of the House (1977-1988) Tip O'Niel used to say "all politics is local . . . Congress are a bunch of bums but MY congress(wo)man is a saint".

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I'm glad they're connecting the T to the North Shore. However, I think it's a better idea to connect the T to Oakland. Does anyone know of any plans to connect Downtown to Oakland or is that all scrapped?

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that idea was scrapped 15 years ago... there has been some preliminary exploration for eastward expansion again in the past year... but I think I'll be dead before I can take the T from Downtown to Oakland at the pace Metro Pittsburgh develops light rail

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The Northshore Connector is a first stage connection to the airport, Oakland, and further east. Denver just got something like 700k from Washington for a major light rail initiative. We need to get something like that rolling to push it forwards as soon as the NSC is finished.

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While PAT has attempted to justify that North Shore Connector by claiming it is the first stage in an eventual Airport line... PAT currently has no study underway concerning expansion of this route. While I am a huge proponent of LRT... this 1.2 mile extension is just about the dumbest thing PAT could've done. Not only is it a useless suburbanite-serving* extension to stadia and a casino... but its colossal price tag is galvanizing the mass transit opponents (Allegheny Institute, Tribune-Review, etc.) This blunder may hamper future efforts to generate broad support for capital projects.

Of course, I also don't believe the North Shore Connector should be stopped at this point... like some advocate. The hundreds of millions of federal dollars are in place already... go through with it and make the best of it... and for pete's sake... get an airport study underway and get a route out to Oakland... it's gonna take 4 years to complete this 1.2 mile extension... which PAT began studying in 1997... 14 years for 1.2 miles!

*meaning it doesn't do diddly squat for city residents and it seems its primary purpose is to whisk people from Bethel Park to Pirate games and slot machines

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