Scaleybark Station Area Projects

[DonkeyKong]

Anyone know what's being built in the area circled in RED.   Major demo on the site today and a much bigger lot than it looks.

Anyon

[kermit]

2 hours ago, DonkeyKong said:

Anyone know what's being built in the area circled in RED.   Major demo on the site today and a much bigger lot than it looks.

Lidl (and a big ass parking lot)

Edit: My bad

Edited November 15, 2022 by kermit

[DonkeyKong]

6 hours ago, kermit said:

Lidl (and a big ass parking lot)

No....this is next to the Lidl site.   North of it.

 

Edited November 16, 2022 by DonkeyKong

[Blue_Devil]

I think it’s like 400 apartments. Was mentioned here a few months ago.


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[Spburn2]

On 11/15/2022 at 1:28 PM, DonkeyKong said:

Anyone know what's being built in the area circled in RED.   Major demo on the site today and a much bigger lot than it looks.

Anyon

Glad to hear those former Patton's buildings are finally being torn down. I think the original plan was for apartments but it may have switched to townhouses or some combination of the two. Not 100% sure. The connected building (formerly South End Jewelry and Loan) on the north side of these buildings traded hands earlier this year. Wonder if that will be part of this project as well.  

[KJHburg]

Since the Scaleybark station is the closest to this project I will put this here.  RAM Realty is buying the South End Business Park at Clanton and 77 and S Tryon. 

""Florida-based Ram Realty Advisors has snagged South End Business Park, a large property in lower South End that was marketed as a "once-in-a-generation" development opportunity.

Ram filed a petition today with the city of Charlotte to rezone the property from business to transit-oriented development.

"We are undergoing a master plan process right now with Design Collective and LandDesign," she said. "It will be a true mixed-use (project), with office, hotel, residential, retail and green space. A big part of the conversation is going to be having great public space that is activated."

The 45.7-acre, 377,152-square-foot property hit the market in late April. JLL's Patrick Nally, Hunter Barron and Alexis Kaiser brokered the sale on behalf of Atlanta-based Stockbridge Capital. Stockbridge purchased the property for $10 million in 2013, according to Mecklenburg County real estate records.""

https://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/news/2022/11/17/ram-realty-buys-south-end-business-park-cre.html

I would expect big things here and they were involved in the Design Center, the Hawk tower, the Lowes tower, the Hub apartments etc.  

[jjwilli]

Seems like a good place for a Wegmans.

[KJHburg]

10 hours ago, jjwilli said:

Seems like a good place for a Wegmans.

I agree! the only spot intown they probably could build one.   Wegmans will be in the Charlotte market soon enough after their big successes in the Raleigh Cary Chapel Hill markets. 

[15895]

1 hour ago, KJHburg said:

I agree! the only spot intown they probably could build one.   Wegmans will be in the Charlotte market soon enough after their big successes in the Raleigh Cary Chapel Hill markets. 

Anywhere intown Charlotte could have a wegmans. Legacy Union could have a wegmans. I’d rather see Wegmans in the heart of SouthEnd 

[DonkeyKong]

46 minutes ago, AirNostrumMAD said:

Anywhere intown Charlotte could have a wegmans. Legacy Union could have a wegmans. I’d rather see Wegmans in the heart of SouthEnd 

My vote is for the Carolina Foods site in a mixed use development.

[kermit]

Wegmans would be an excellent land use for the rear of the property to blot out I-77 noise.

[KJHburg]

Wegmans really does not like urban format stores there are only 2 one in DC and one in Brooklyn.  However backing up to 77 might be good as that would not be the best place for apartments. 

Carolina Foods site will probably be much higher density 

and of course plenty of land uptown in First Ward. 

[SydneyCarton]

Here’s the Observer’s take…

The fun never stops in Clt.

 

[Reverie39]

On 11/17/2022 at 10:04 PM, jjwilli said:

Seems like a good place for a Wegmans.

I was going to also suggest Harris Teeter, since I know Raleigh has a very nice urban Harris Teeter in North Hills. Unfortunately seems like there's already a Harris Teeter on South near Scaleybark and it's not at all what I'd call "urban".  That said there's one in Uptown on 6th and Pine that looks great from Google street view. Maybe one day the South HT can be converted to something like this.

[Hushpuppy321]

This area around Scaleybark is changing very fast for the better.  The amount of Apartment construction is incredible even down to the Woodlawn Corridor which is now I guess the furthest point south in the LoSo area.

Is LoSo from Woodlawn to Clanton Rd?

[Prodev]

I would say it's slightly north of Clanton. The CATS light rail facility creates a natural gap in the geography, which to me is the dividing point between South End and LoSo.  So, if you're on South Blvd, everything from Greystone south and if you're on Tryon, everything south of Foster. Woodlawn doesn't feel like it should be considered LoSo, but since it has no other identity, that's what all the new apartment projects are latching on to, so it definitely will be considered LoSo if it isn't already.  There's a new apartment deal on Tyvola that there was just a bizjournal article about and they were calling themselves in the LoSo neighborhood, which I think is a stretch. 

[KJHburg]

Charlotte is #1 in neighborhood name stretching in the south if not the nation.

Myers Park and Dilworth extend to Southpark then Southpark extends to Ballantyne even over the NC SC state line.   NoDa is anything from the Parkwood LYNX station to University area. 

But I would extend LoSo to Woodlawn Road but unless an area has a strong name recognition in this city they will be railroaded over by the more popular name.

Scaleybark despite its unique name will be probably absorbed into the LoSo because it is more hip. 

[15895]

On 11/18/2022 at 2:07 PM, KJHburg said:

Wegmans really does not like urban format stores there are only 2 one in DC and one in Brooklyn.  However backing up to 77 might be good as that would not be the best place for apartments. 

Carolina Foods site will probably be much higher density 

and of course plenty of land uptown in First Ward. 

That’s not true that only 2 exist. 

In the DC metro area there are 4 or so urban wegmans alone (I think only the Reston one isn’t open yet). Alexandria, Tyson’s, Reston, DC. Which makes me wonder, where else Wegmans have these urban formats. Seems prime for Dallas, Atlanta and I’d even say Charlotte & the Triangle 

Any of the below would be perfect for SouthEnd/LoSo (which I’ve finally come to accept as an actual thing lol) 

Tysons

Alexandria 

Reston 

DC

Edited November 23, 2022 by AirNostrumMAD

[SouthEndCLT811]

I'll take one of the Alexandria example on the Crosland property at the corner of South & Scaleybark, please  

[Ryan20]

On 11/16/2022 at 4:58 PM, Spburn2 said:

Glad to hear those former Patton's buildings are finally being torn down. I think the original plan was for apartments but it may have switched to townhouses or some combination of the two. Not 100% sure. The connected building (formerly South End Jewelry and Loan) on the north side of these buildings traded hands earlier this year. Wonder if that will be part of this project as well.  

Has anyone been able to confirm apartments, townhomes or something else?

[Spburn2]

Based on the recent permit it looks like Akridge is involved. So I'm guessing this is planned for more apartments given they are the developer of the South & Hollis apartments just down the street. 

Some pictures from the area today:

1 & 2: Demo of the former Patton's buildings

3 & 4: Lidl construction progress

5 & 6: 3305 South Blvd (former dry cleaners & Sea Arcade) - Looks like it is prepped for demo. Planned for Alexan LoSo apartments

7, 8, & 9: South & Hollis apartments construction progress (I like that they put up a Christmas tree on corner of 2nd floor)

 

 

Edited December 16, 2022 by Spburn2
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[Spburn2]

Some additional pictures from the area:

1: 3601 South (bar/restaurant/music venue across from South & Hollis. Unsure if this has a name yet)

2 & 3:  LoSo Station

4, 5, & 6: The Platform (across South Blvd from the Lidl and former Patton's site)

 

Edited December 16, 2022 by Spburn2
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[KJHburg]

^^^ Hey you might want to upload your photos as .jpg as I can't open them in that .heic format.  I would like to see them! 

[JRCLT]

Or as an IMG and not a URL or link as i think they are now.

[atlrvr]

On the Patton's site (that was demolished) the apartment developer is Akridge (who is doing a project just 2 blocks away at South and Hollis).