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On 11/12/2019 at 5:47 PM, vicupstate said:

Bramlett Road Annexation

29 +- acres includes Legacy Charter School.

Interesting that they already have the stripe that allows the contiguity. Must have annexed it year's ago before the State took it away. 

Glad to see this for City View

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1 hour ago, ausrutherford said:

Interesting that they already have the stripe that allows the contiguity. Must have annexed it year's ago before the State took it away. 

Glad to see this for City View

Wondering if this would open the door for city to pursue additional annexations in that area... annexation laws in SC are weird. 

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11 hours ago, ausrutherford said:

Interesting that they already have the stripe that allows the contiguity. Must have annexed it year's ago before the State took it away. 

Glad to see this for City View

The strip that creates contiguity was annexed last month.  CSX is the property owner, and they signed. These type of shoestring annexations are still allowed under certain circumstances. ROW alone is no longer sufficient though, at least not for a significant distance.

When City View unincorporated, I wish the city would have tried to merge the two cities rather than just let them  surrender their charter.  

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Funny the city annexes these little pieces of properties that mean little. All the old mill villages, City View etc should be in the city already. Just think what the city population would be if it just included inside Pleasantbug Dr., inside Blue Ridge Dr, out to White Horse Rd and back to Pleasanburg. 300K? It's so ridiculous that you can easily walk from main st. to the city limits in several directions. 

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On 11/15/2019 at 8:09 AM, vicupstate said:

The strip that creates contiguity was annexed last month.  CSX is the property owner, and they signed. These type of shoestring annexations are still allowed under certain circumstances. ROW alone is no longer sufficient though, at least not for a significant distance.

When City View unincorporated, I wish the city would have tried to merge the two cities rather than just let them  surrender their charter.  

Gotcha, if CSX signed then its definitely good. 

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On 11/16/2019 at 2:09 AM, apaladin said:

Funny the city annexes these little pieces of properties that mean little. All the old mill villages, City View etc should be in the city already. Just think what the city population would be if it just included inside Pleasantbug Dr., inside Blue Ridge Dr, out to White Horse Rd and back to Pleasanburg. 300K? It's so ridiculous that you can easily walk from main st. to the city limits in several directions. 

The mills were almost always built outside the city purposely to avoid city taxes.  Once the homes were sold off, they had already been out of the city for decades.  The resients saw no need to annex and the cost of services would have exceeded the new revenue to the city anyway.   Now that the property values are rising, that may not be the case as much.     

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On 11/17/2019 at 10:29 AM, vicupstate said:

The mills were almost always built outside the city purposely to avoid city taxes.  Once the homes were sold off, they had already been out of the city for decades.  The resients saw no need to annex and the cost of services would have exceeded the new revenue to the city anyway.   Now that the property values are rising, that may not be the case as much.     

I have always seen annexing residential as an investment.

Sure, you might lose money on the residential. But the commercial properties that come with it in the area (in this case the mills) can lift it over the edge.

You can't produce contiguity to most commercial without going through a neighborhood quite often. 

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Now that the tax credits and such have made the renovations possible and profitable, yes.  That is a recent phenomenon though.  Also, there is financial incentive to take the mill but not the mill village residential.   

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8 hours ago, gman430 said:

:yawn: Where are the highrises? Things have sure gotten quiet lately around town development news wise. 

LOL....where are your latest & (always) fantastic drone pics?  :tw_glasses:

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22 hours ago, vicupstate said:

Now that the tax credits and such have made the renovations possible and profitable, yes.  That is a recent phenomenon though.  Also, there is financial incentive to take the mill but not the mill village residential.   

There are also financial negatives to not taking the mill village along with the mill. Without helping rehab the village, it might hurt the business of the mill. 

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3 minutes ago, ausrutherford said:

There are also financial negatives to not taking the mill village along with the mill. Without helping rehab the village, it might hurt the business of the mill. 

Hmmm, that could be a quite an expensive endeavor. You're mostly looking at providing services, and improving infrastructure for very little tax gain. I think the arts district is a somewhat fair case study for how other mill villages would be invested in and improved by the City.  And while the arts district has been extremely successful, it was not largely reliant on the City for improvement. The City has only slowly trickled money into the area.

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