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this article is from June in the Sentinel:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-orlando-airport-tops-43-million-20170808-story.html

rolling 12 months was 43.1M.  June international traffic was up in June, and contributing to this was Air Berlin's first full month of new service.  I didn't know.

It's an interesting trend here; they keep adding routes and ridership keeps increasing.  If you build it, they will come.

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21 hours ago, spenser1058 said:

that's good to know b/c I'll be flying out tomorrow and unfortunately flying back on Saturday, but flying back should be ok, I think.

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So... I flew back to Orlando last week.  I took the tram to Terminal C, I.e., the Intermodal Center.  Can I get a “wow”?  Awesome facility.  It’s big.  The actual train platform section is cordoned off, but, the rest of the facility is first class.   It’s parking deck (“C”) has a two level glass gantry connecting it to the facility.  It’s very nice.   I’ll post some photos this week.  The new South Terminal (“C”) has a lot of sitework going on down there.

GOAA wants people to park at C and take the tram in during this holiday season because the main terminal is busy.  I had to park on Terminal Top level 8 last week.  

The Intermodal Center is so nice, that it makes the rest of the airport look outdated.  That being said, the Hyatt side of the airport will always look nice.  They just need to continue with the renovations and ditch the carpeting.

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Based upon this years traffic, it looks like Orlando is going to overtake Miami again. For some reason, MIA traffic is down this year, while MCO consistently grows by 5-10 % each year. 

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Apparently, South America is in a down cycle again while domestic tourism is helping Orlando thanks in no small part to investments in the theme parks (a business where, "if you build it, they will come" really is true.) Canada is also rebounding a bit (both on its own and incentives/marketing from the parks.) I'm not sure what's happening with the UK while they figure out Brexit.

I was actually a little surprised it took us so long - we had gotten past MIA prior to the crash in '08 and I didn't think it would take this long to catch back up. Good to have us back in the pole position.

 

 

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Through October 2017

MCO : Calendar year 36,949,934

                Calendar domestic growth 6.44%, Intl 4.35

MIA: Calendar year  36,424,395

              Calendar domestic growth -3.82%, Intl 0.74%

It looks like domestic traffic has mainly taken a hit on Miami

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On 12/4/2017 at 1:30 PM, spenser1058 said:

Apparently, South America is in a down cycle again while domestic tourism is helping Orlando thanks in no small part to investments in the theme parks (a business where, "if you build it, they will come" really is true.) Canada is also rebounding a bit (both on its own and incentives/marketing from the parks.) I'm not sure what's happening with the UK while they figure out Brexit.

I was actually a little surprised it took us so long - we had gotten past MIA prior to the crash in '08 and I didn't think it would take this long to catch back up. Good to have us back in the pole position.

 

 

Yeah, MIA for some reason spiked in air traffic by several million a few years back when OIA had pvertaken it.  Maybe Ft Lauderdale airport is eating into its domestic business.

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4 hours ago, HankStrong said:

MIA + FLL + PBI >>>>>>>> MCO + SFB + DAB

If you're talking the entire region it is all about options.

 

 

Thats a physically bigger region as well, I'd say more comparable to saying the I-4 corridor/Central Florida and throwing in TPA. I mean, from Jupiter in PBC, its almost the same time to go to MCO or MIA, especially taking into account traffic. I know I'd rather drive to MCO then MIA from there, its an easier drive and probably only adds 10-15 minutes when you account for traffic.

I don't know if throwing TPA into the mix would even push the Central Florida region above the South Florida region for airport passenger counts or anything, and the point is well taken that FLL steals a lot of traffic from MIA, those are much closer and more similar to MCO+SFB

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21 hours ago, HankStrong said:

MIA + FLL + PBI >>>>>>>> MCO + SFB + DAB

If you're talking the entire region it is all about options.

 

 

 

You cannot throw in Palm Beach into that mix because it is the same distance Tampa is to Orlando. However, using just FLL/MIA vs MCO/SFB, then yes there is still a large gap. However, this was never about metro/population size, it was simply the busiest single airport in Florida.  Orlando looks to be king, and I do not see that changing for a long time considering the expansion underway. 

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Just checked out the new train station this weekend with the kids. Looks great. Security guards are a little incompetent though. The building is completely open and even the info desk clerk gave the ok to go upstairs to walk down to the Christmas tree. All escalators are working and no taped off areas........ however, when I got down to the end by the Christmas tree, some stuck up rent a cop started demanding that I leave the building immediately and that I was trespassing as the building was not open yet. I tried educating him how he was wrong, he initially wanted none of it, then had to pull up an orlando sentinel article giving a review of the place stating that it was open. Only then did he come to terms with it and started blaming his higher levels for not getting everyone on the same page. Honestly, he seemed rather incompetent, even to the point  of not knowing that brightline is eventually gonna have service to Miami from the station.  

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2 things:

Final 2017 numbers are in.  44.6 million total.  This passes Miami.

I parked at C and flew out.  I did not have baggage, but if I did that would've been a bit of a pain.  As it was, I just hopped the old train from B to the main terminal and then took the SPACE AGE SUPER MODERN train to C.

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Technically busier than MIA in 2017.  But, last time MCO surpased MIA,  MIA scheduled more direct flights the following year and jumped ahead by like 4-5M passengers just like that.  And that was within the past 7 years or so.  Miami always has to be No.1.  Just like when Port of Miami did a hanging chad recount of their cruise numbers to make sure they bested Port Canaveral by just a few hundred passengers.  Pathetic, but I get it.  Chicago is the same way.

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So the Director of Sunrail says to the OBJ that due to cost estimate, phase 3 sunrail to MCO will have to be "reevaluated"... So basically Sunrail to the airport is dead?? 

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1 hour ago, orlandouprise said:

So the Director of Sunrail says to the OBJ that due to cost estimate, phase 3 sunrail to MCO will have to be "reevaluated"... So basically Sunrail to the airport is dead?? 

I'll never understand this $250mm price tag to upgrade 3.5 miles of existing track, already located within a 120 wide City-owned right-of-way.  They should have required Brightline to connect to Sunrail before building the MCO station and parking garage for them.  Brightline is already planning to extend their line west to the OUC line to build their service yard anyway.

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4 hours ago, gibby said:

I'll never understand this $250mm price tag to upgrade 3.5 miles of existing track, already located within a 120 wide City-owned right-of-way.  They should have required Brightline to connect to Sunrail before building the MCO station and parking garage for them.  Brightline is already planning to extend their line west to the OUC line to build their service yard anyway.

Yeah, I don't get it either.  This is where I see money going: double tracking, additional tracks to airport, additional train sets to keep current intervals.  How does that cost as much money as they claim?  The station is already built for them.

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