smeagolsfree

505CST | 545 ft | 45 fls Church St | U/C

1630 posts in this topic

I also wouldn't put too much stock into it just to save some heartbreak. Been there done that and learned my lesson! Siggy, Lake Palmer. You can't even get too excited when a big hole is being dug out for "construction" only to become a lake attraction. Not that none of these couldn't be done, just, IMO, take everything with a grain of salt as they say. I still hope for WES and something Siggy-like to emerge on day, sooner than later!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


I still think a smaller Signature Tower is going to happen. I find it hard to find the tenants for 505CST.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Interesting little article about 505 in  Building Design+ Construction publication July of this year. Nothing that we didn't already know but interesting to say the least that there is still interest being generated from somewhere.

 

http://www.bdcnetwork.com/blog/nashville-tower-be-one-worlds-most-energy-efficient-skyscrapers

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Interesting little article about 505 in Building Design+ Construction publication July of this year. Nothing that we didn't already know...

Actually, there was alot in that article I didn't know about. Obviously I've seen the building, but I had no idea about the LEED Platinum, the double glazed wall, etc. Very exciting concepts! Now there is often a very large difference between concept and reality (if we ever even get to see this beauty), but the concept is very exciting indeed!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Actually, there was alot in that article I didn't know about. Obviously I've seen the building, but I had no idea about the LEED Platinum, the double glazed wall, etc. Very exciting concepts! Now there is often a very large difference between concept and reality (if we ever even get to see this beauty), but the concept is very exciting indeed!

 

One of the reasons I prefer this project over Signature. It's far more cutting edge in technology than Siggy. Sure, a thousand footer would definitely put us on the map...but this would give us something that even cities with other thousand footers don't have. It would be special, and perhaps it would set a higher standard for efficient design in the area.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If only Tony would get a developing partner, such as Hines, to get this going. It's clear as day the core office market is tightening up more and more and the Class A group has very little left and almost no large consistent floor plates in any building for a large operation. I think we're one of those rare markets that could host a large spec office building but banks just aren't willing to lend without a lead tenant. The only exception I'm seeing out there is a 45+ story project in downtown Houston. Houston is absolutely about to explode vertically like they haven't witnessed since the 80s boom that shaped much of their skyline.

 

On a side note, apparently an announcement is expected in OKC tomorrow for a 700+ft tower.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

On a side note, apparently an announcement is expected in OKC tomorrow for a 700+ft tower.

 

Gee whiz, another one ? And so soon after building the 844-ft Devon Energy Tower, too.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


I think I am honestly happy Signature Tower was not built after looking at OKC. The Devon Energy Tower is great looking, but it looks so misplaced with the city. It also makes the other buildings very very small looking. I think Nashville would need much more density before we try for an 800ft plus building.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think I am honestly happy Signature Tower was not built after looking at OKC. The Devon Energy Tower is great looking, but it looks so misplaced with the city. It also makes the other buildings very very small looking. I think Nashville would need much more density before we try for an 800ft plus building.

While I do wish for more density, I would hate for us to have a tower that makes all our other buildings look short.  I would HATE for that to happen HERE in Nashville.

9369520565_86f3391e75.jpg
landc alone by willfry, on Flickr
 
on a serious note though, anyone know when they stopped offering public access to the observation deck in the L&C
1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here is a little more on the tower from the Smithgill site.

 

http://smithgill.com/media/pdfs/nashville_for_web_.pdf

thanks for that link, I havent previously seen that many renderings and those energy details.  

the only thing I dont like about it is that from two sides it is fat.  its just a personal preference but I like tall buildings to be slender.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

While I do wish for more density, I would hate for us to have a tower that makes all our other buildings look short.  I would HATE for that to happen HERE in Nashville.

9369520565_86f3391e75.jpg
landc alone by willfry, on Flickr
 
on a serious note though, anyone know when they stopped offering public access to the observation deck in the L&C

 

Almost 30 years ago or more. For awhile it was a private residence, and an architects office. Later, a 20 year old woman from Kentucky dove off the top to the street awning below in 1995 or 1996 when the architect let her look off the deck...twice. She came back the next day, and he let her up a second time.  It was the Terazzo sales office a few years ago, but the outside was not accessible. The last time I remember it open to the public was the 1970's. When the Hyatt opened in 1975 with the revolving restaurant, the L&C Tower Observation Deck was all but closed.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

^I think I had forgotten that 505CST is only a smidge over 600 feet, so it will actually be technically shorter than our beloved Batman (albeit it will appear taller since it's on a higher elevation). Of course, that still makes it 400 feet shorter than the Signature planned for that same location.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

thanks for that link, I havent previously seen that many renderings and those energy details.  

the only thing I dont like about it is that from two sides it is fat.  its just a personal preference but I like tall buildings to be slender.  

 

I have the same preference you do for sleek and slender skyscrapers, but 505 truly is a stunning building, in my opinion.  And the fact that is absolutely state-of-the-art only makes it more appealing.  I love that the design is cutting edge well beyond just it's physical beauty. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


I would also really like to thank you for that link. More images and info than I had ever seen. It's truly a stunning building. My love and hope for this project is renewed!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't like it for one reason... it's not 40 stories.  What's the invisible "ceiling" keeping all Nashville buildings under 40 floors? 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't like it for one reason... it's not 40 stories.  What's the invisible "ceiling" keeping all Nashville buildings under 40 floors? 

 

10) Fear

 

9) No-one willing to take a risk

 

8) FAA height restrictions

 

7) Metro Fire Department height restrictions

 

6) Cost

 

5) Insurance rates above a certain height

 

4) This is Nashville and Nashville does not like tall buildings because that is "too big city..."

 

3) Construction companies don't want to build that high

 

2) Union wages for tall buildings are too tall

 

and the top ten reason Nashville does not build above 40 stories....1) Not enough concrete available.

Edited by 5th & Main Urbanite

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

"If" they were to build something with height, would the construction be outsourced anyways? I just figured Nashville would not have any companies capable of a project of that scale. Was The Pinnacle built by a Nashville based company?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

10) Fear

 

9) No-one willing to take a risk

 

8) FAA height restrictions

 

7) Metro Fire Department height restrictions

 

6) Cost

 

5) Insurance rates above a certain height

 

4) This is Nashville and Nashville does not like tall buildings because that is "too big city..."

 

3) Construction companies don't want to build that high

 

2) Union wages for tall buildings are too tall

 

and the top ten reason Nashville does not build above 40 stories....1) Not enough concrete available.

 

1a) Just to piss you off.

2 people like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

"If" they were to build something with height, would the construction be outsourced anyways? I just figured Nashville would not have any companies capable of a project of that scale. Was The Pinnacle built by a Nashville based company?

 

The Pinnacle was built by Brasfield & Gorrie who has a number of regional offices (Nashville, Dallas, Jacksonville, Birmingham maybe, and some others).  They also built Encore, Adelecia, the Batman Building, and Suntrust Plaza.  They've built a few other highrises too. 

 

http://www.brasfieldgorrie.com/Portfolio.aspx#cat=60

Edited by arkitekte
1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If only Tony would get a developing partner, such as Hines, to get this going. It's clear as day the core office market is tightening up more and more and the Class A group has very little left and almost no large consistent floor plates in any building for a large operation. I think we're one of those rare markets that could host a large spec office building but banks just aren't willing to lend without a lead tenant. The only exception I'm seeing out there is a 45+ story project in downtown Houston. Houston is absolutely about to explode vertically like they haven't witnessed since the 80s boom that shaped much of their skyline.

 

On a side note, apparently an announcement is expected in OKC tomorrow for a 700+ft tower.

 

Hey, Nash, I did a search of news articles and couldn't find any mention of a new skyscraper for Oklahoma City. Do you have any info ? The UP forum on OK is dead.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well that's a bit disappointing.  I was looking forward to seeing what was in the works for them, because I thought this was some imminent super tall that was ready to be constructed.  It turns out, if I'm understanding the video correctly, that it's really nothing more than speculation at best. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

On a sidebar, the building to be replaced in OKC by the speculative tower is fugly........ I am surprised with all teh accolades it has received....

r620-1ce5f2867c2d1356a2211353041824ae.jp

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.