The SoBro | 32 stories 345 ft | 3rd & Demonbreun

[UTgrad09]

This takes the best elements from the first two renders...the sleekness/slenderness of the first design, and the curves of the second design.

Reminds me of a more interesting Nashville City Center.

[Paramount747]

Still looks about 375'

Yep. I think 375-390 is possible 400 would be stretching it a bit, but that is still decent height, although we need to break the 400-500  barrier soon and fast if we want to keep up. I seriously doubt the 25 Story Westin will break 300, but who knows.

[mirydi]

See what a little patience brings UA...

 

This new design looks alright, but I'm disappointed neither of the other two versions were used. I thought both of them were hands down better than this one. Either way, great news!

[nashmoney]

Wow....I like the new design. This is going to look Stunning in Sobro. I like that they increased the retail portion to over 20k sq ft.

 

Way to go Tony G!

[barakat]

Here are very detailed plans for SoBro [you're welcome. ]

ftp://freeplotting.com/old/archive/SOBRO-%20Arch.pdf

[barakat]

Another new rendering:

http://www.prlog.org/12326036-205-demonbreun-street.jpg

[dmillsphoto]

Oooh. Two-tier roof. Also, the first PDF didn't work, barakat.

[barakat]

It does work; it's a large file and takes time to load.

Oooh. Two-tier roof. Also, the first PDF didn't work, barakat.

[dmillsphoto]

It does work; it's a large file and takes time to load.

 

 

Work network is preventing. Nevermind.

[arkitekte]

The roof is at 328'.The mechanical roof is at 336'. 33 floors.

[Paramount747]

See what a little patience brings UA...

 

This new design looks alright, but I'm disappointed neither of the other two versions were used. I thought both of them were hands down better than this one. Either way, great news!

Tony said it was an 18 month delay.

[mirydi]

Tony said it was an 18 month delay.

So why do they plan on getting construction permits in the next 10 days if this is delayed for 18 months? 

[Paramount747]

The roof is at 328'.The mechanical roof is at 336'. 33 floors.

What? Interesting....not surprising.

[mirydi]

Another new rendering:

http://www.prlog.org/12326036-205-demonbreun-street.jpg

Wow! Ok this looks much better!

[dmillsphoto]

So why do they plan on getting construction permits in the next 10 days if this is delayed for 18 months? 

 

*was* delayed.

[Paramount747]

So why do they plan on getting construction permits in the next 10 days if this is delayed for 18 months? 

It was delayed 18 months!!!!!

Concrete barriers may be going up as early as tonight according to WW!!!!!

[bigeasy]

The roof is at 328'.The mechanical roof is at 336'. 33 floors.

Kinda depressing, but I will take it. So it will be almost 100 ft shorter than the Pinnacle? Are office floors that much taller? Pinnacle is 4 floors less but over 100 feet taller.  Should be interesting to see how this will fit into the skyline. To me the rendering is just shouting to be taller than 328'

Edited July 22, 2014 by bigeasy

[Paramount747]

Funny Miryidi and I had a bit going back and forth when I said many residential buildings are not tall, even with 33 floors it could be 330 feet. He said no way, and what happens? a 33 story building is 328 feet! 336 with roof cap for mechanical.

[arkitekte]

Kinda depressing, but I will take it. So it will be almost 100 ft shorter than the Pinnacle? Are office floors that much taller? Pinnacle is 4 floors less but over 100 feet taller.  Should be interesting to see how this will fit into the skyline. To me the rendering is just shouting to be taller than 328'

 

Yeah, there's a lot more mechanical space that's needed for various things, drop ceilings, etc. 

[CandyAisles]

Ballpark 14 feet for a typical office floor to floor.  Ballpark 10 feet for a typical hotel/apartment/condo.

[Vrtigo]

I'm really confused by the height... It seems like tall ceilings are very much in vogue these days and a lack of height seems like a negative. Don't most structures also have space in between each floor for plumbing, etc?

 

I feel like the quoted height gives barely enough for 8' ceilings on each floor.

Edited July 22, 2014 by Vrtigo

[Paramount747]

Hey, anything over 300 feet is BIG for Nashville. We are not a skyscraper city, and most of our peers are not either. If you look at 10 or so of our peer cities, they are not building anything at all such as  Jacksonville, Louisville, Indianapolis, Birmingham, Little Rock, Memphis, Knoxville, Chattanooga, Mobile, Tulsa, OK City (the Devon tower not withstanding) Tucson, Phoenix  etc... I would not place us as a peer city to Austin or Charlotte. They are so much bigger depending on how you look at it.

 

I'll take 300+ feet in Nashville any day of the week. Density, density, density.

[arkitekte]

I'm really confused by the height... It seems like tall ceilings are very much in vogue these days and a lack of height seems like a negative. Don't most structures also have space in between each floor for plumbing, etc?

 

I feel like the quoted height gives barely enough for 8' ceilings on each floor.

 

A lack of tall ceilings isn't a negative, it's just a sign that this isn't Chicago or NYC. 

 

Plumbing and other conduit can be stacked. 

[bwithers1]

Hey, anything over 300 feet is BIG for Nashville. We are not a skyscraper city, and most of our peers are not either. If you look at 10 or so of our peer cities, they are not building anything at all such as  Jacksonville, Louisville, Indianapolis, Birmingham, Little Rock, Memphis, Knoxville, Chattanooga, Mobile, Tulsa, OK City (the Devon tower not withstanding) Tucson, Phoenix  etc... I would not place us as a peer city to Austin or Charlotte. They are so much bigger depending on how you look at it.

 

I'll take 300+ feet in Nashville any day of the week. Density, density, density.

Indy just built a tall JW Marriott Hotel too long ago next to their convention center.  As I mentioned at our last forum meet, Indy may not have a lot going on at this very moment, but that is because they are just catching their breath from a period of a few years in which Indy saw a vast amount of new construction and renovation all over the downtown area leading up to their hosting of the superbowl.  They have also recently done a pretty major renovation of their zoo, which is also close to downtown, and built a brand new county hospital in their medical district, which is also not far from downtown.

 

You're right that not a lot of these buildings were tall.  But the amount and quality of their recent construction projects has been impressive.

[mirydi]

Low ceilings are most definitely a negative. I wouldn't even consider a home with anything under 10' ceilings, and I'm sure most people would be turned off by that as well. That's just what people expect in this day and age. I have a friend who has an older home with 8' ceilings, and anytime I go over there it feels like I'm in a coffin. I assure you anytime someone can stand in a home and touch the ceiling with you hands...it's a big negative. As for the SoBro, I can't see this building having anything less than 10' ceilings. If it were less than that I would be shocked. This is after all supposed to a 'luxury' apartment tower. Kinda of a tough sell on the luxury part if you have super low ceilings. I saw a listing not too long ago for a condo unit in 1212. I can't remember if it said 10 or 12' ceilings, but it definitely wasn't 8 or 9'. 10'+ ceilings are pretty much the standard today. 

Edited July 22, 2014 by mirydi