Nashville Bits and Pieces

[markhollin]

Fastest growing business sectors in Nashville from 2012-2017 by amount of employees, as well as by salaries:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/money/2018/09/18/nashville-top-10-fastest-growing-industries-where-does-yours-rank/1266279002/

 

[jmtunafish]

Revised delineations have been released for all metropolitan and micropolitan areas in the US.  Hickman County is no longer part of the Nashville MSA.  The only other changes in the state are Gibson County being added to the Jackson MSA, and Grainger County being moved back from the Knoxville MSA to the Morristown MSA which is where it originally was when the Morristown MSA was created.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Bulletin-18-04.pdf

[bnacincy]

I wonder if there is any possibility of Montgomery County being added to the Nashville MSA?

[KJHburg]

The 30 largest U.S. metro areas ranked by 2017 GDP growth are:

• 1. San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA 7.6%
• 2. Austin-Round Rock, TX 6.9%
• 3. Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA 5.2%
• 4. San Antonio-New Braunfels, TX 4.6%
• 5. Nashville-Davidson--Murfreesboro--Franklin, TN 4.1%
• 6. Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX 3.9%
• 7. Pittsburgh, PA 3.7%
• 8. Denver-Aurora-Lakewood, CO 3.6%
• 9. Charlotte-Concord-Gastonia, NC-SC 3.5%
• 10. Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ 3.4%
• 11. San Francisco-Oakland-Hayward, CA 3.4%
• 12. Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro, OR-WA 3.0%
• 13. Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Roswell, GA 2.9%
• 14. Cleveland-Elyria, OH 2.9%
• 15. Boston-Cambridge-Newton, MA-NH 2.8%
• 16. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim, CA 2.8%
• 17. Detroit-Warren-Dearborn, MI 2.7%
• 18. Las Vegas-Henderson-Paradise, NV 2.7%
• 19. Raleigh, NC 2.7%
• 20. Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN 2.4%

source BEA and Atlanta Business Chronicle 

[jmtunafish]

1 hour ago, bnacincy said:

I wonder if there is any possibility of Montgomery County being added to the Nashville MSA?

I'm surprised the Clarksville MSA isn't already in the Nashville CSA.  The next time these things are updated will be in 2023, and I fully expect that to happen.  I also predict that the Cookeville micropolitan area will be upgraded to a metropolitan area.

[e-dub]

1 hour ago, KJHburg said:

The 30 largest U.S. metro areas ranked by 2017 GDP growth are:

• 1. San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA 7.6%
• 2. Austin-Round Rock, TX 6.9%
• 3. Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA 5.2%
• 4. San Antonio-New Braunfels, TX 4.6%
• 5. Nashville-Davidson--Murfreesboro--Franklin, TN 4.1%
• 6. Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX 3.9%
• 7. Pittsburgh, PA 3.7%
• 8. Denver-Aurora-Lakewood, CO 3.6%
• 9. Charlotte-Concord-Gastonia, NC-SC 3.5%
• 10. Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ 3.4%
• 11. San Francisco-Oakland-Hayward, CA 3.4%
• 12. Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro, OR-WA 3.0%
• 13. Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Roswell, GA 2.9%
• 14. Cleveland-Elyria, OH 2.9%
• 15. Boston-Cambridge-Newton, MA-NH 2.8%
• 16. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim, CA 2.8%
• 17. Detroit-Warren-Dearborn, MI 2.7%
• 18. Las Vegas-Henderson-Paradise, NV 2.7%
• 19. Raleigh, NC 2.7%
• 20. Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN 2.4%

source BEA and Atlanta Business Chronicle 

We did well, and seeing Detroit on the list makes me smile!

[Hey_Hey]

Taking Hickman County out of the MSA is going to hurt our chances of hitting 2 million for the MSA.  It May leave is a few thousand short. 

I would be interested in knowing the commuter numbers for Montgomery County. I suspect it will enter the Nashville CSA and I wouldn’t be surprised if it enters the MSA in another 10-15 years. There are increasingly high numbers of people commuting between Clarksville and Nashville due to affordability.  I still think we are years away, but it may very well be coming. 

[Pdt2f]

51 minutes ago, Hey_Hey said:

Taking Hickman County out of the MSA is going to hurt our chances of hitting 2 million for the MSA.  It May leave is a few thousand short. 

I would be interested in knowing the commuter numbers for Montgomery County. I suspect it will enter the Nashville CSA and I wouldn’t be surprised if it enters the MSA in another 10-15 years. There are increasingly high numbers of people commuting between Clarksville and Nashville due to affordability.  I still think we are years away, but it may very well be coming. 

My department in my office in Rutledge Hill has maybe 15 people, I think fully a third of them live in Clarksville. 

[PaulChinetti]

New committee members and chairs for the Council. 

[MidTenn1]

5 hours ago, KJHburg said:

The 30 largest U.S. metro areas ranked by 2017 GDP growth are:

• 1. San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA 7.6%
• 4. San Antonio-New Braunfels, TX 4.6%
• 5. Nashville-Davidson--Murfreesboro--Franklin, TN 4.1%
• 7. Pittsburgh, PA 
• 19. Raleigh, NC 2.7%
• 20. Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN 2.4%

source BEA and Atlanta Business Chronicle 

Why are Nashville, Raleigh,  Cincy and others in the top 30 MSA's?

[MidTenn1]

3 hours ago, Hey_Hey said:

Taking Hickman County out of the MSA is going to hurt our chances of hitting 2 million for the MSA.  It May leave is a few thousand short. 

I would be interested in knowing the commuter numbers for Montgomery County. I suspect it will enter the Nashville CSA and I wouldn’t be surprised if it enters the MSA in another 10-15 years. There are increasingly high numbers of people commuting between Clarksville and Nashville due to affordability.  I still think we are years away, but it may very well be coming. 

I saw traffic counts a decade ago  that showed well over a thousand vehicles headed to Nashville in the morning rush hour and returning to Centerville in the evening at one specific intersection in Hickman County. It was unmistakably commuter traffic. And I'm sure there were other routes almost as busy.  That seems like a pretty strong commute to me.

[BnaBreaker]

Random observation: 

I'm not normally one to encourage investment into the widening and overall improvement of our expressways, but I have to say that as I was travelling to Atlanta the other day down I-65 I couldn't help but notice how stark the difference was between the Kentucky portion of I-65 and the Tennessee portion of I-65 through to in and around Goodlettsville.  I've traveled that section of highway many times before, but for some reason or another, the difference stood out this time around.  Kentucky's highway was well-built and modern and consisted of six or more lanes and quality signage.  It was wide and well-lit and made of concrete.  The two halves were separated simply by a concrete barrier, lending to a more streamlined, compact feel.  Things just seemed to flow free and easy, with most cars going between 75-80 mph with very minimal police presence.  In short, it felt like a modern expressway.  THEN you hit the Tennessee state line and it immediately becomes what feels like a narrow, dark, secluded old two lane state highway meandering through the woods.  The traffic is cramped and moves inefficiently, and the wide grass median just feels cheap, inefficient and lazy by comparison.  Then to top off the antiquated feeling, within three miles of the border there was a state trooper in his old beat up brown Crown Victoria, who literally peeled out of the dirt Dukes of Hazzard style to chase down an out-of-town speeder.  The only way the scene could have been more embarrassing and reinforcing of all the old TN stereotypes was if that Nathan Bedford Forrest 'statue' in Franklin was there to greet travelers as well.  I mean, what a terrible first impression that must give travelers from other states... luckily, we have the beautiful and glittering Nashville skyline just a few miles down the road to help erase those impressions... but still.  And seriously, what is up with the state troopers still driving around those twenty year old baby poop brown Crown Victorias?  Is the budget for the highway patrol really that measly?  Indiana and Kentucky state troopers were driving around in new Dodge Chargers.   On another note, I also took a very quick driving tour through Nashville to see some of the new development and while it is thrilling to see all the new development, the juxtaposition between all the shiny new buildings and Nashville's cluttered, crumbling, lazily designed, poorly funded infrastructure is always jarring to me, and this time around was no different.  Nashville's infrastructure is, to be frank, embarrassing, and more fitting of a city a tenth it's size.  I hesitate to dip my toe into political waters here, but I guess that's what you get in a state so hesitant to spend money on that type of thing.  Anyway, Sorry for the rant completely lacking in indention... this post is like Nashville's infrastructure in written form... cluttered and unorganized... but it's late, and I'm tired and on my phone... seriously though, TN needs to step up it's game in so many different ways. 

[MLBrumby]

At this end of the state, the comparison to Georgia is just as stark. But I think it has more to do with funding than the politics (as GA & KY are pretty similar to TN). I understand TN's dept of trans. is a "pay as you go" meaning they don't borrow for road projects. GA is always issuing bonds for one highway right after another. 

But I feel your pain. Frustrating as hell to have to drive up to Nashville these days. I-24 from Chattanooga to Murfreesboro has NOT changed a bit since before my first trip to Nashville in 1986! I'd guess it takes 2-3 times the amount of traffic too.  Yesterday, I was behind a rig going 35 up Monteagle while the driver attempted to do some idiotic leapfrog with another truck in the right lane. I recall the construction of the eastern side of the mountain when I was in college and remember there were months at a time when NOBODY was seen working on that project. It took 8 long years to finish. 

Here in 'nooga we get treated to tremendous stupidity by TDOT as the eastern part of Hamilton explodes in growth. Yes, we have the rework of US27, but that was terribly laid out by TDOT in the first place back in the 1950s. It's a prime example of neglecting the problem until it's too bad to ignore. Still, we have to listen to the very hayseed, hick-sounding spokeswoman (I think Flynn is her name) come up with excuse after excuse as to why long-overdue highway expansions are unfinished or have been completely ignored. Frustrating.  

Edited September 19, 2018 by MLBrumby

[smeagolsfree]

The segment between the KY State line and Goodlettsville will be expanded. I seem to recall that was part of the improve act. Now widening it to six or to eight lanes had yet to be decided.

Another stretch of I65 between Indianapolis and Louisville is another stretch that badly needs to be widened. That's in another state, but that stretch was scary for me last time I drove it.

[KJHburg]

7 hours ago, PHofKS said:

Why are Nashville, Raleigh,  Cincy and others in the top 30 MSA's?

Not sure Cincy is a top 30 metro area in population Nashville is #36 and Raleigh #43 unless they used some consolidated metro figures.  Houston did not grow its GDP  in that time period.

Chart came from Atlanta Business Chronicle https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2018/09/18/report-metro-atlantas-gdp-growth-ranked-13th-among.html?ana=e_mc_prem&s=newsletter&ed=2018-09-19&u=oAaDx%2B74FoP4qOJ%2By4AU6dhJPpc&t=1537358133&j=83907671

[markhollin]

Metro pushes forward on reshaping developer incentives:

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2018/09/19/metro-council-pushes-forward-on-reshaping.html

[QCxpat]

9 hours ago, PHofKS said:

Why are Nashville, Raleigh,  Cincy and others in the top 30 MSA's?

 

2 hours ago, KJHburg said:

Not sure Cincy is a top 30 metro area in population Nashville is #36 and Raleigh #43 unless they used some consolidated metro figures.  Houston did not grow its GDP  in that time period.

Chart came from Atlanta Business Chronicle https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2018/09/18/report-metro-atlantas-gdp-growth-ranked-13th-among.html?ana=e_mc_prem&s=newsletter&ed=2018-09-19&u=oAaDx%2B74FoP4qOJ%2By4AU6dhJPpc&t=1537358133&j=83907671

Here are the US Census Bureau's pop. estimates as of July 1, 2017, for each cities Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA), Combined Statistical Area (CSA), and rankings of their MSAs and CSAs:

Charlotte MSA:       2,525, 305    MSA Rank: 22            Charlotte CSA:    2,684,121      CSA Rank:   20

Cincinnati MSA:      2,179,082     MSA Rank: 29            Cincinnati CSA:  2,238,265      CSA Rank:   28

Houston MSA:         6,892,427     MSA Rank:  5               Houston CSA:     7,093,190      CSA Rank:     9        

Nashville MSA:        1,903,045     MSA Rank: 36            Nashville CSA:    2,027,489      CSA Rank:   31

Pittsburgh MSA:     2,233,367    MSA Rank:  26            Pittsburgh CSA: 2,623,639     CSA Rank:   21  

Raleigh MSA:            1,335,079     MSA Rank: 43            Raleigh CSA:        2,199,459      CSA Rank:    29

San Antonio MSA:  2,473,974    MSA Rank:  24          N.B.:  San Antonio was not designated a CSA by the US Census Bureau until 09/14/2018 (See OMB Bulletin No. 18-04 below) 

San Jose MSA:         1,998,463     MSA Rank:  35           San Jose/San Francisco CSA:  8,837,789    CSA Rank:  5

MSAs - Charlotte (#22), Cincinnati (#29), Houston (#5), Pittsburgh (#26), and San Antonio (#24) are top 30 MSAs.   Nashville (#36), Raleigh (#43), and San Jose (#35) are not.

CSAs -  Charlotte (#20), Cincinnati (#28), Houston (#9), Pittsburgh (#21),  San Jose/San Francisco (#5), and Raleigh (#29) are top 30 CSAs.   Nashville (#31) is not.  San Antonio was not been designated a CSA by the Census Bureau until 09/14/2018 (See OMB Bulletin 18-04 below).

Links:  https://www.census.gov/data/tables/2017/demo/popest/total-metro-and-micro-statistical-areas.html - US Census Bureau Metropolitan and Micropolitan Statistical Areas Population Totals: 2010-2017, Cumulative Estimates of Resident Population Change and Rankings: April 1, 2010 to July 1, 2017

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Bulletin-18-04.pdf  -  OMB Bulletin No. 18-04 dated September 14, 2018, Revised Delineations of Metropolitan Statistical Areas, Micropolitan Statistical Areas, and Combined Statistical Areas, and Guidance on Uses of the Delineations of These Areas.

Edited September 19, 2018 by QCxpat
Add OMB Bulletin No. 18-04 dated 09/14/2018

[MLBrumby]

The Nashville CSA does NOT include Montgomery County... just 20 miles away? That's over 200K people?

[grilled_cheese]

Quote

The city has $1.7 billion in already-approved capital projects that haven't been financed. That doesn't include anticipated capital-spending plans, including one that Briley intends to put forward this fall.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2018/09/18/nashville-council-bonds-capital-projects/1347458002/

[Rockatansky]

16 hours ago, bnacincy said:

I wonder if there is any possibility of Montgomery County being added to the Nashville MSA?

It seems unlikely. It is already its own separate MSA and MSA merging has been discouraged recently.

[Mr_Bond]

1 hour ago, Rockatansky said:

It seems unlikely. It is already its own separate MSA and MSA merging has been discouraged recently.

The Clarksville MSA is centered around Fort Campbell and includes two TN counties and two KY counties.  Clarksville just happens to be near Nashville on the southeastern corner of this MSA.  If Clarksville's connection to Nashville becomes stronger than its connection to Fort Campbell, Hopkinsville (KY) and surrounding areas, they could merge into our MSA.  But for now, not likely.

[jmtunafish]

1 hour ago, Mr_Bond said:

The Clarksville MSA is centered around Fort Campbell and includes two TN counties and two KY counties.  Clarksville just happens to be near Nashville on the southeastern corner of this MSA.  If Clarksville's connection to Nashville becomes stronger than its connection to Fort Campbell, Hopkinsville (KY) and surrounding areas, they could merge into our MSA.  But for now, not likely.

I doubt Montgomery County will ever be part of Nashville's MSA, but I don't think it'll be long before the Clarksville MSA is added to Nashville's CSA.

[jmtunafish]

The NY Times has a fun, interactive map to show just how connected we are to each other in this age of social media.  The surprising conclusion:  "Even in the age of the internet, distance matters immensely in determining whom--and, as a result, what--we know."  Data analyzed by economists at Facebook, Harvard, Princeton, and NYU is used to determine just whom we associate with on Facebook.  Here's a link to the article:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/09/19/upshot/facebook-county-friendships.html

I'm going to post snapshots of the national map; the darker the county's color, the more it's connected to the highlighted county.

Here's Davidson County.  Not surprisingly, people in Davidson County are Facebook friends with people all over the country.

Now compare that with Shelby County (Memphis) where it's much more regional:

Here's Mecklenburg County NC (Charlotte) which is heavily aligned with the East Coast and especially the Carolinas:

Knox County has lots of friends from all over Tennessee, and especially from East Tennessee and Williamson County, but also from counties throughout the region that are dominated by universities (TTU, Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn, MS State):

And Hamilton County also has a fairly broad range of "likes" especially from within 100 miles:

Anyway, it's fun to play with!  I've been wasting time all morning at work playing with this map.  Not surprisingly, counties with large military installations like Montgomery also have widespread ties.

Edited September 21, 2018 by jmtunafish

[titanhog]

^^What's really weird is to look at NYC and LA.  VERY regional at best.

[e-dub]

Yeah, that map is super cool. Thanks for sharing, @jmtunafish!