Nashville Bits and Pieces

[Tennessine]

20 minutes ago, CityHeart said:

World Cup 2026. 

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2019/04/01/tourism-chief-says-nfl-draft-will-help-nashvilles.html?iana=hpmvp_nsh_news_headline

I completely forgot about the possibility of Nashville being selected as a host city for the World Cup.  Atlanta being so close in proximity with a world class stadium  does make  me wonder how good Nashville's chances are. 

I thought we were already selected as a host city, or am I mistaken?

[CityHeart]

 

15 minutes ago, nativetenn said:

I thought we were already selected as a host city, or am I mistaken?

I believe 10 U.S. cities will be selected to host and Nashville made the first cut. 17 cities are vying for the final 10. 

Edited April 1, 2019 by CityHeart

[MidTenn1]

Here (lower right) is a list of all the shortlisted cities from which 10 out of 17 USA cities will be chosen. There will be 3 Canadian and 3 Mexican Cities also.

There is a consolation prize which will does not appear to be a massive draw and should not require removing any cherry trees.

[FromParkAveToTN]

Ugh!!! I have friends calling me about coming to town for the NFL draft, but I'm like, just because I have extra guest rooms doesn't mean I want people staying in them.  My guest rooms are for showcasing my decorating skills, not for sleeping. 

[smeagolsfree]

According to the TN, they are getting ready to transplant the trees.  Rolling eyes.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/2019/04/02/nashville-begins-prep-remove-10-cherry-trees-downtown-nfl-draft/3341751002/

My feelings is that they are wasting money because transplanting trees this time of year is not good, especially Yoshino Cherries, which is what these are do not transplant well this time of year and they are larger trees. They have enough trouble with heat stress in August  without having to deal with it in the Spring and Summer. They most all drop their leaves in August and look like crap.

They will have to prepare the holes carefully and they way those trees are planted in with the concrete around them, I dont think they can get enough   of the root ball. Those tress are most likely going to die and the are spending a lot of extra dollars for nothing. They will have to put tons of water on these trees everyday even if the survive the transplant.

Stupidity on the mayors part trying to win an election because something stupid like this is an issue instead of youth violence in the city and we have 65000 people sign a petition and they dont get upset when a 12,13, 14 & 15 year old kill someone. 

People in the community have their priorities all out of whack.

Sorry guys, I did not mean to editorialize but it just happened. This is a big waste of taxpayer dollars over ten trees that are most likely going to die

[donNdonelson2]

Yes, this is a case of a vast amount of misplaced outrage! These are ornamental specimen trees and easily replaced. Trees are a renewable resource...and the NFL will be planting 200 additional trees when all this is over.

Let’s concentrate on lowering the crime rate that is getting really out of hand in our neighborhoods!

[GreenHillsBoy]

I agree with Smeagolsfree for the most part but also think that there are a significant number who are getting concerned the Titans are going to soon demand a new stadium.  I have been a day one season ticket holder and was on the Yes Committee to bring the Titans here but I am so tired of these billionaire owners holding cities hostage for these billion dollar stadiums or threaten to move the team.  Jerry Jones basically bankrupted Arlington, TX for his grand stadium and similar with Arthur Blank in Atlanta.  The trees are sort of a point where people are saying to the NFL, enough of your bullying for billionaires.  The secrecy around it was also an issue as it seemed to be a sort of an attempt to be extravagant for no real reason.  There is no reason to have to have such a large stage for a single guy to walk over to the commissioner and hole up his jersey and hat.  

[CenterHill]

57 minutes ago, smeagolsfree said:

According to the TN, they are getting ready to transplant the trees.  Rolling eyes.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/2019/04/02/nashville-begins-prep-remove-10-cherry-trees-downtown-nfl-draft/3341751002/

My feelings is that they are wasting money because transplanting trees this time of year is not good, especially Yoshino Cherries, which is what these are do not transplant well this time of year and they are larger trees. They have enough trouble with heat stress in August  without having to deal with it in the Spring and Summer. They most all drop their leaves in August and look like crap.

They will have to prepare the holes carefully and they way those trees are planted in with the concrete around them, I dont think they can get enough   of the root ball. Those tress are most likely going to die and the are spending a lot of extra dollars for nothing. They will have to put tons of water on these trees everyday even if the survive the transplant.

Stupidity on the mayors part trying to win an election because something stupid like this is an issue instead of youth violence in the city and we have 65000 people sign a petition and they dont get upset when a 12,13, 14 & 15 year old kill someone. 

People in the community have their priorities all out of whack.

Sorry guys, I did not mean to editorialize but it just happened. This is a big waste of taxpayer dollars over ten trees that are most likely going to die

 

Apparently Public Works didn't get the memo about transplanting the trees and brought their chainsaws instead. 

 

 

 

[MLBrumby]

Oops! This won't be good for the mayor. 

[japan]

1 hour ago, smeagolsfree said:

According to the TN, they are getting ready to transplant the trees.  Rolling eyes.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/2019/04/02/nashville-begins-prep-remove-10-cherry-trees-downtown-nfl-draft/3341751002/

My feelings is that they are wasting money because transplanting trees this time of year is not good, especially Yoshino Cherries, which is what these are do not transplant well this time of year and they are larger trees. They have enough trouble with heat stress in August  without having to deal with it in the Spring and Summer. They most all drop their leaves in August and look like crap.

They will have to prepare the holes carefully and they way those trees are planted in with the concrete around them, I dont think they can get enough   of the root ball. Those tress are most likely going to die and the are spending a lot of extra dollars for nothing. They will have to put tons of water on these trees everyday even if the survive the transplant.

Stupidity on the mayors part trying to win an election because something stupid like this is an issue instead of youth violence in the city and we have 65000 people sign a petition and they dont get upset when a 12,13, 14 & 15 year old kill someone. 

People in the community have their priorities all out of whack.

Sorry guys, I did not mean to editorialize but it just happened. This is a big waste of taxpayer dollars over ten trees that are most likely going to die

Isn't the NFL footing the bill?

[CenterHill]

Crew apparently told the reporter the trees being cut down "were dead".      As if no one would notice they were in full bloom.    

[TheRaglander]

Oh my god these are trees.  I’ve seen many of trees cut down for development.  Huge ones.   Blossoming ones.  A whole bunch hiding the homeless around the fort.  And guess what?  Big ones will come down if Tony gets to build his massive tower.  What the hell am I missing here?  Is the media that bored or are we all just looking for something else to b*tch about??  

[Jamie Hall]

Just now, TheRaglander said:

or are we all just looking for something else to b*tch about??  

 

Bingo! I'm curious to see how many of the local newscasts tonight will lead with this "scandal" -- but not curious enough to actually endure any of them.

[Tennessine]

12 minutes ago, TheRaglander said:

Oh my god these are trees.  I’ve seen many of trees cut down for development.  Huge ones.   Blossoming ones.  A whole bunch hiding the homeless around the fort.  And guess what?  Big ones will come down if Tony gets to build his massive tower.  What the hell am I missing here?  Is the media that bored or are we all just looking for something else to b*tch about??  

Hey, now! Nashville doesn't have enough tr....

 

In all seriousness, I understand a greater amount of the frustration is directed at the city for poor communication rather than the actual trees being cut down. Since the city ignored the citizens' outrage, I hope they use their best judgment from this point forward. The last thing Nashville needs is more bad PR, especially if we want things like transit to get passed in the future.

I also believe Nashville needs more greenspace downtown, so I hope the city is able to create something better than what we had with the trees. There has been plenty of backlash following plans to axe Church St. Park for Paramount Tower, and now with the city's "oops, we just cut down these trees we didn't realize you all love and lied to you about it" debacle, the city better have a pretty good idea of how the citizens feel.

[Bos2Nash]

This was big news over the weekend and the news stations are covering what the people are angry about. People are angry about this because they can control something like this with their outrage. The crime rates are harder for the petitions and “angry mob” to control because of beauraceatic BS. This is another example of the city not being open about the deals they are making. I am all for the city going for things such as the NFL Draft, it’s huge for the city, but once these deals are finalized they need to be VERY accessible to the public.

i congratulate the angry mob for reducing the amount of trees from 21 to 10, but I also agree with the stance of these are fairly easy to replace. The question that hasn’t been answered is why the hell these need to be removed at all?? The stage is at the end of broadway and the trees aren’t really interfering there. Does the NFL really demand so much space around the stage that they can’t work around these trees?? Sheer laziness on the NFL and their production team in my opinion. 

[CityHeart]

I'm not sure if this layout is still current but just a reminder on the layout. 

Edited April 2, 2019 by CityHeart

[TheRaglander]

...what happens if it's cold, windy and rainy?  I thought these things were always indoors?!

[nashvylle]

1 minute ago, TheRaglander said:

...what happens if it's cold, windy and rainy?  I thought these things were always indoors?!

We pray for good weather. They were outdoors in Chicago and Philadelphia. 

[CityHeart]

2 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:

According to the TN, they are getting ready to transplant the trees.  Rolling eyes.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/2019/04/02/nashville-begins-prep-remove-10-cherry-trees-downtown-nfl-draft/3341751002/

My feelings is that they are wasting money because transplanting trees this time of year is not good, especially Yoshino Cherries, which is what these are do not transplant well this time of year and they are larger trees. They have enough trouble with heat stress in August  without having to deal with it in the Spring and Summer. They most all drop their leaves in August and look like crap.

They will have to prepare the holes carefully and they way those trees are planted in with the concrete around them, I dont think they can get enough   of the root ball. Those tress are most likely going to die and the are spending a lot of extra dollars for nothing. They will have to put tons of water on these trees everyday even if the survive the transplant.

Stupidity on the mayors part trying to win an election because something stupid like this is an issue instead of youth violence in the city and we have 65000 people sign a petition and they dont get upset when a 12,13, 14 & 15 year old kill someone. 

People in the community have their priorities all out of whack.

Sorry guys, I did not mean to editorialize but it just happened. This is a big waste of taxpayer dollars over ten trees that are most likely going to die

You have some pretty loaded accusations  in your post that seems more appropriate for the coffee house don't you think Ron. 

[CenterHill]

I've been following it all weekend.     A lot of the anger is directed at Briley because people feel the cherry trees are just one more example of, and really a metaphor for,  a tone deaf administration that prioritizes outside interests and tourism dollars over the citizens who live here.     The cherry tree fiasco reads to people as "mayor and NCVC invite NFL;  NFL says ok but cut down your nice trees; mayor says "ok NFL, whatever you want".      Both the process (excluding parks dept) and the communication (oops, people found out) were very poorly handled and this is what happens, you get blowback.  

btw, I said I've been following it.   There have been some of those same comments in the twitterverse: "why the trees, why is no one this upset about _________ (fill in blank with  crime, schools, affordable housing, transit, etc)? "    It's a silly question and the people asking it aren't really thinking.     Many of the people complaining about the trees have been equally vocal about this administration's (and his predecessor's) progress on those other issues.     Of course those are the big issues facing the city.      But those issues are much more complex and can't be resolved with a weekend petition.     People will continue to press for discussion and solutions on the big issues.    

[Bos2Nash]

1 hour ago, CityHeart said:

I'm not sure if this layout is still current but just a reminder on the layout. 

So they cutting down permanent trees (albeit replaceable) because they can’t move or get a big enough tent to work around them? Again, that is laziness on the NFL production part and shameful that the mayor would allow trees to be removed for it. 

It appears those tents are for the “green room” where draft picks wait. Why not flip the whole arrangement and cover the vast amount of asphalt on the other side of broadway under the pedestrian bridge? 

[BnaBreaker]

And not only that, but based on that rendering it appears that Mayor Briley has agreed to allow the NFL to demolish any highrise built after 2008 as well! 

Edited April 2, 2019 by BnaBreaker

[Mr_Bond]

12 minutes ago, BnaBreaker said:

And not only that, but based on that rendering it appears that Mayor Briley has agreed to allow the NFL to demolish any highrise built after 2008 as well! 

Is that a crane to the left of the Encore?

[Tennessine]

44 minutes ago, BnaBreaker said:

And not only that, but based on that rendering it appears that Mayor Briley has agreed to allow the NFL to demolish any highrise built after 2008 as well! 

If they take out the Westin, you won't hear me whinin'.

[volsfanwill]

3 hours ago, nativetenn said:

Hey, now! Nashville doesn't have enough tr....

In all seriousness, I understand a greater amount of the frustration is directed at the city for poor communication rather than the actual trees being cut down. Since the city ignored the citizens' outrage, I hope they use their best judgment from this point forward. The last thing Nashville needs is more bad PR, especially if we want things like transit to get passed in the future.

I also believe Nashville needs more greenspace downtown, so I hope the city is able to create something better than what we had with the trees. There has been plenty of backlash following plans to axe Church St. Park for Paramount Tower, and now with the city's "oops, we just cut down these trees we didn't realize you all love and lied to you about it" debacle, the city better have a pretty good idea of how the citizens feel.

I "discussed" this with someone on channel 5s facebook post.   I'm having the same reaction when I read this.

If the city IGNORED the citizens' outrage,  the plan to cut 21 trees down and plant new ones would still be in place.   If they IGNORED,  nothing would have changed,  no public statements would have been made.   If they had been ignored, 21 trees would have been cut down yesterday and would be mulch on a trail in a park today.

In fact they absolutely heard the concerns of citizens and drastically changed their plans.    Now only  10 trees will be temporarily removed.  If some do not survive the process, they will be replaced.   I have also been told by a friend who's family runs a nursery that these types of trees do not last very long surrounded by concrete like this anyway.  and these were nearing their age limit, and would therefore need to be replaced very soon anyway.  of course when this happens.  people will blame the move.

Now not only has the number been reduced to 10, but the city will gain 200 more trees!   Take the win.  The city listened!    Just because the petition did not result in a 100% reversal, does not mean it was ignored.   It did result in a major change.  Again, take the win and move on.