Nashville Bits and Pieces

[Melrose 161]

3 hours ago, nashvylle said:

What am I missing- $22.6MM less $10MM already to be received = $12.6MM in new funds to metro... isn't that good?

Like I said,  this a nice one time realization of  $12.6 MM,  which will help fill part of the hole in this year's budget.   But in future years,  this $12.6 MM will only be a replacement  for, and thus only a  small increase over the $10MM, that MCC has given over the past couple years.  This is just a different structure, as discussed here:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2019/10/10/nashville-mayor-john-cooper-music-city-center-make-deal-boost-budget/3929172002/

So my point is this is not a "pretty huge win" for Cooper,  it is a small increase and does indeed set a more permanent structure,  which are indeed both nice  and seem to have been in the works already.    But as Bob Mendes notes in the article,  MCC could give more:

"If you really wanted to push the convention center authority, there's another $10 million to $15 million," Mendes said. "The convention center is limited on what they can spend money on because there's a high stack of bond payments and they've got hotel and motel taxes that (can only be spent in certain ways)." 

Now if Cooper had gotten all of this money,  that would be a lot more significant.....

[OnePointEast 766]

1 hour ago, Nash_12South said:

Is it just me or does the mayor look really short or is the podium really big?

He's actually the mayor of Townsville and Nashville, juggling Mojo JoJo and funding Metro through the Music City Center. Quite a task.

[nashvylle 6697]

3 minutes ago, Melrose said:

Like I said,  this a nice one time realization of  $12.6 MM,  which will help fill part of the hole in this year's budget.   But in future years,  this $12.6 MM will only be a replacement  for, and thus only a  small increase over the $10MM, that MCC has given over the past couple years.  This is just a different structure, as discussed here:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2019/10/10/nashville-mayor-john-cooper-music-city-center-make-deal-boost-budget/3929172002/

So my point is this is not a "pretty huge win" for Cooper,  it is a small increase and does indeed set a more permanent structure,  which are indeed both nice  and seem to have been in the works already.    But as Bob Mendes notes in the article,  MCC could give more:

"If you really wanted to push the convention center authority, there's another $10 million to $15 million," Mendes said. "The convention center is limited on what they can spend money on because there's a high stack of bond payments and they've got hotel and motel taxes that (can only be spent in certain ways)." 

Now if Cooper had gotten all of this money,  that would be a lot more significant.....

The past two years of $10MM were special requests and it was only for tourism related expenses. $12.6MM of recurring pilot taxes going to metro's budget is in my opinion a big win, but you can of course disagree with my definition of a big win. 

Edited October 10, 2019 by nashvylle

[Melrose 161]

More sober headed analysis here:

https://www.nashvillescene.com/news/pith-in-the-wind/article/21091747/mayor-convention-center-announce-multiyear-funding-plan

Again,  a nice small thing with incremental improvements.  But Cooper is pretending this is something it's not, and I expect we are going to get a lot more such proclamations over the next 4 years....   

[markhollin 92797]

NBJ coverage of the MCC funding deal:

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2019/10/10/mayor-cooper-strikes-deal-to-get-more-funding-from.html?iana=hpmvp_nsh_news_headline

[smeagolsfree 18397]

Its all spin to tell those that voted for him, ...see what I got ya...

[PaulChinetti 5985]

What is all this extra money earmarked for, Joelton?
 

 

[e-dub 2963]

""Neighborhoods"".

[PaulChinetti 5985]

21 minutes ago, e-dub said:

""Neighborhoods"".

NeyburrHOODS!!! Rabble rabble rabble

 

[markhollin 92797]

"Nashville Then and Now" feature in today's NBJ that features many photos of previous times and comparing them to present, as well as some telling graphs comparing growth.

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2019/10/11/then-now-a-dramatic-look-at-how-nashville-has.html?iana=hpmvp_nsh_news_headline

Also, behind the NBJ paywall, these additional features on the subject:

Executives on how Nashville has changed since the 1970s:

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2019/10/11/before-the-boom-executives-on-how-nashville-has.html?iana=hpmvp_nsh_news_headline

Q&A with a historian on how Nashville has changed since the 1970s:

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2019/10/11/q-a-with-an-expert-how-nashville-has-changed-since.html?iana=hpmvp_nsh_news_headline

Here are some samples:

[titanhog 15073]

^^the first two photos coming in from I-65 north of town are eye opening for two reasons.  First...the skyline change is drastic.  But...the interstate is exactly the same!! 

[grilled_cheese 1826]

That interchange is exactly the same yet we widened I65 in WillCo to eleventy billion lanes.  Makes sense.

[titanhog 15073]

1 hour ago, grilled_cheese said:

That interchange is exactly the same yet we widened I65 in WillCo to eleventy billion lanes.  Makes sense.

For once, I agree with you.

[titanhog 15073]

You guys see this video of the Hard Rock Hotel in New Orleans (under construction) collapsing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5_UtZWK1aw

[dReAmWiELdEr 172]

You guys see this video of the Hard Rock Hotel in New Orleans (under construction) collapsing?

Holy crap! How could such a thing happen in this day and age? It looks as though injuries (or worse) are inevitable.

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[titanhog 15073]

32 minutes ago, dReAmWiELdEr said:

Holy crap! How could such a thing happen in this day and age? It looks as though injuries (or worse) are inevitable.

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1 dead...18 injured so far.

 

Edited October 12, 2019 by titanhog

[BnaBreaker 9188]

That's terrible... can New Orleans catch a break already?  Good grief, universe.

[dragonfly 180]

On 10/11/2019 at 8:15 AM, markhollin said:

I transferred into Vanderbilt engineering fall '69 from U Chattanooga which became UTC that very fall semester. By that time I had made it my business to have a good knowledge of metros around the country because of meeting people from them at college. i remember spending time in the UC library looking at population tables in the Information Please Almanac. So in 1970 Nashville metro was 600K and Atlanta was 1.3M+. Houston was 1.8M, smaller than Nashville present. I think Austin was about 350K and Charlotte somewhere between Austin and Nashville. Chicago was right at 8M metro (where my parents had relocated by then), Detroit at 5M. Los Angeles had surpassed Chicago in metro and city pop maybe around '66.

I remember in the Vanderbilt engineering school seeing on a bulletin board in ca. '71 someone had posted an authoritative clipping with projected 1980 metro population for Nashville at 900K and it was well known at that time that Nashville was growing much faster than Memphis. So sure enough I was not going to let that memory go saved without checking those almanacs after 1980 for the census figures. The Nashville metro was 850K  and Memphis was 910K in 1980. Austin was about 550K I think, as I was living there at the time, 1980.

So currently, intriguing it is to understand that metro Houston (my domicile) is, at 7M approaching the 1970 population of Chicagoland where I spent my summers during college (@ Arlington Heights). The DFW metroplex is already there at 8M currently.

And btw all those decades was sort of anticipating Nashville crossing that 1M metro population eventually (since I grew up there), which, turned out it had just reached in the 1990 census. Although I have seen somewhere that there was some controversy over what constituted the Nashville metro at that time.

[bigeasy 1760]

OMG that is horrible!!! It looks like someone was on some scaffolding on the side as well.

 

Bad winds there causing the cranes to crash into the building? They looked like they were swaying.

[markhollin 92797]

NBJ has a ranking of the Top 49 construction projects currently underway in the Nashville area:

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2019/10/14/top-of-the-list-nashvilles-biggest-development.html?iana=hpmvp_nsh_news_headline

They list 28 that are over $100 million in value currently underway.  They missed the following:

Capitol View:  $400 million
Drury Plaza Hotel: $100 million
Green Hills Mall Expansion: $200 million
Nashville Zoo expansion:  $160
OneC1TY: $500 million
Vandy Childrens Hospital: $100 million

Additionally, there are about 28 more in the $100+ million range that should be starting within the next year.

 

 

[PHofKS 8312]

8 hours ago, bigeasy said:

OMG that is horrible!!! It looks like someone was on some scaffolding on the side as well.

 

Bad winds there causing the cranes to crash into the building? They looked like they were swaying.

Some people on Skyscraper Page said they apparently heard the two crane horizontal booms collided causing one to drop its load, thus causing the floors below to pancake on top of one another.  We will know for sure at some point.

[NashvilleObserver 1816]

On 10/11/2019 at 10:59 AM, grilled_cheese said:

That interchange is exactly the same yet we widened I65 in WillCo to eleventy billion lanes.  Makes sense.

OH! But DON'T YA KNOW.... "Widening the interstate does NOTHING to alleviate the.... blah blahhh BLAH!"

[Bark At The Sun 2425]

[CenterHill 4265]

^^ colors on the KVB bridge are the colors of the Kurdish flag.     Kudos to Metro and Cooper for doing this.   

[Bark At The Sun 2425]

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