Nashville Bits and Pieces

[smeagolsfree]

I would use google to start your search as to each element you are looking for. I do not think you will find it neatly wrapped up in a box. You need to figure out what peer cities you want to look at as well.

The cost of living for each year should be easy enough to find, however you may have to do the math yourself as you will probably find the cost of living for each year and then see what the increase is. I think that there may be several sources for that and I am not sure if bureau of labor and stats handles that or someone else.

UTGrad or one of these other fellows knows the best place for accurate stats as some of the stats some groups gather are off. You have to make sure if you gather the stats for one city from one source it is the same source for every city.

[Mr_Bond]

2 hours ago, subkyle said:

Does anyone know where I can find cost of living information for Nashville and also how it compares to other cities? I’m curious how much our cost of living has increased since 2017. It would also be cool to see how we stack up against our peer cities. Ive looked for this information and can’t seem to find any good intel.

A quick search will reveal lots of 'cost of living comparison between cities' websites.  There may be some differences in results but, for the most part, the comparisons are similar.  If I were making a career and moving decision, I would want to get into the details of the comparison based on where I may be living in the new city.  For example, it would be helpful to know the cost of living in Franklin plus commuting to downtown versus the cost of living in downtown Nashville.

I'm not sure where to find a year over year comparison of COL in Nashville but would suspect that it is out there somewhere.

[markhollin]

Nashville announces two new Mobile Housing Navigation sites designed to bring intensive services to the city's unhoused population.

The sites are the latest step in Nashville's efforts to address the area's increase in homelessness, which has been spurred on in recent months by the pandemic and rising temperatures. 

Each site can provide up to 20 people with "immediate stabilization and intensive support services" to help individuals work toward the ultimate goal of obtaining housing. The mobile centers will operate in churches and other "trusted community spaces," according to a Metro Nashville news release.

The first two sites will be set up in West Nashville and Madison, "prioritizing areas where health and safety concerns are most urgent," the release states.

The city estimates that three fully functional Mobile Housing Navigation sites could help as many as 250 people get the housing and wraparound services they need over the next two years.

More at The Tennessean here:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/davidson/2021/08/10/nashville-mobile-housing-navigation-service-residents-homelessness/5519065001/

[markhollin]

Nashville residents are calling for new regulations on entertainment vehicles after a 22-year-old fell off a party bus on Lower Broadway and was run over. Safe Fun Nashville, a coalition of Nashville residents and downtown business owners, has launched an online petition to create new safety standards for the vehicles.

"Every time I go downtown, whether to have fun, show people around, or for work, I see too many instances where party vehicles cause traffic accidents, disrupt neighborhoods, and get people hurt," said Rachel Wilson, who started the petition. "We need a safer way to have fun in Nashville."

The Change.org petition calls for the Tennessee state legislature and Metro Council  to create "common sense safety standards for party vehicles." It also requests increased enforcement of existing rules regulating when and where these vehicles can operate.

The petition has 291 signatures of a 500 signature goal as of press time.

Local governments are prohibited from regulating party vehicles under state law. An operator must obtain a state license to hit the road, and enforcement of safety standards after that is lax.

More at The Tennessean here:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/2021/08/10/safe-fun-nashville-petition-for-party-vehicle-regulation-after-man-fell-off-run-over/5551361001/

[smeagolsfree]

They are supposed to release the population figures tomorrow for Davidson County for the redistricting.

[AsianintheNations]

The Washington Post has a new interactive map showing urban sprawl since 2001: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/land-development-urban-growth-maps/. Their poster children are of course Houston and Phoenix. The Nashville metro area map is below: gray = developed land in 2001; purple = new development since 2001. Nice visualization of what we mostly already knew in terms of the areas adding newly developed land (mostly single family homes) and driving a lot of the population growth. Sadly, there isn't a counterpart for re-developed land showing where the city has grown up instead of out (fortunately we have the legendary development map here for that).

The original source of the data is the U.S. Geological Survey: https://www.usgs.gov/news/new-land-cover-maps-capture-nearly-two-decades-change-across-us?

Edited August 11, 2021 by AsianintheNations

[Bos2Nash]

4 minutes ago, AsianintheNations said:

The Washington Post has a new interactive map showing urban sprawl since 2001: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/land-development-urban-growth-maps/. Their poster children are of course Houston and Phoenix. The Nashville metro area map is below: gray = developed land in 2001; purple = new development since 2001. Nice visualization of what we mostly already knew in terms of the areas adding newly developed land (mostly single family homes) and driving a lot of the population growth. Sadly, there isn't a counterpart for re-developed land showing where the city has grown up instead of out (fortunately we have the legendary development map here for that).

The original source of the data is the U.S. Geological Survey: https://www.usgs.gov/news/new-land-cover-maps-capture-nearly-two-decades-change-across-us?

Just have to develop around 840 between Lebanon and Murfreesboro and that will be a seriously large area that will scream for even more transit than we already are!

And no, I would not call for the northern portion of 840, just no.

[MLBrumby]

That's coming. It's Nolensville, and it's about to explode with even more growth. It's doubled in population over the last decade, and all indications are it will more than double in the '20s.  Will have 20,000 by 2030, not to mention the growth coming to the unincorporated areas of both counties. 

[downtownresident]

Courtesy of the NBJ, Tennessee Counties ranked by population: 

Link to the tweet, here: https://twitter.com/nshbizsichko/status/1425892678269538307?s=21

Heres a map that shows the growth rate for all US Counties: 

[MLBrumby]

Davidson and Rutherford together are more than a million. Rutherford nipping at the heels of Hamco. The largest 5 counties in the MSA together exceed the total population of the MSA in 2010. 

[andywildman]

22 hours ago, AsianintheNations said:

The Washington Post has a new interactive map showing urban sprawl since 2001: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/land-development-urban-growth-maps/. Their poster children are of course Houston and Phoenix. The Nashville metro area map is below: gray = developed land in 2001; purple = new development since 2001. Nice visualization of what we mostly already knew in terms of the areas adding newly developed land (mostly single family homes) and driving a lot of the population growth. Sadly, there isn't a counterpart for re-developed land showing where the city has grown up instead of out (fortunately we have the legendary development map here for that).

The original source of the data is the U.S. Geological Survey: https://www.usgs.gov/news/new-land-cover-maps-capture-nearly-two-decades-change-across-us?

All that development on the outside of Hendersonville really showing how the extension of the Bypass (Vietnam Vets) out to Gallatin really induced demand.

Neely's Bend continues to floor me in its capacity to stay undeveloped.

I expect the next 20 years' map to fill out over half of the undeveloped land inside 840 between Franklin and Murfressboro.

[tragenvol]

So Nashville MSA didn't reach two million at 2020 Census....just shy per the county numbers.  Hickman would have pushed the MSA over the top for 2M.

Edited August 12, 2021 by tragenvol

[smeagolsfree]

Someone has to crunch all the numbers. I am too beat to do so. Remember Hickman is out of the MSA now.

What is the number?????

[Mr_Bond]

If you include Montgomery County unofficially, 6 of the top 10 counties are in Middle Tennessee.

[MLBrumby]

I got approximately 1,990,000

Allowing for the change in the counties (dropped Hickman and added Maury since 2010), the metro area gained approximately 35,000 residents each year. Given the July '20 to July '21 growth, it's safe to estimate that the metro population is now more than 2M. 

Edited August 12, 2021 by MLBrumby

[bnacincy]

Looks like West Tennessee had the most population loss-checking the Census site Shelby County just added 2100 people in 10 years.

Edited August 12, 2021 by bnacincy
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[AsianintheNations]

3 hours ago, downtownresident said:

Courtesy of the NBJ, Tennessee Counties ranked by population: 

Link to the tweet, here: https://twitter.com/nshbizsichko/status/1425892678269538307?s=21

716k for Davidson County is a big jump from the ACS yearly estimates (694k in 2019, 691k in 2018). I'm not surprised - I had a feeling that the estimates were struggling to keep up with all the new development (particularly newly created addresses in older neighborhoods, e.g. my house, as I alluded to in an earlier post).

On the other hand, Shelby County at 930k is lower than the 2019 estimate of 937k by a decent amount.

Edit: Here's a table comparing 2010 and 2020 populations for the top 10 counties. Surrounding counties like Rutherford, Williamson, and Wilson obviously have the astronomical growth by percentage, but Davidson County still added the most absolute people.

Edited August 12, 2021 by AsianintheNations

[MLBrumby]

9 minutes ago, bnacincy said:

Looks like West Tennessee had the most population loss-checking the Census site Shelby County just added 2100 people in 10 years.

 

6 minutes ago, AsianintheNations said:

716k for Davidson County is a big jump from the ACS yearly estimates (694k in 2019, 691k in 2018). I'm not surprised - I had a feeling that the estimates were struggling to keep up with all the new development (particularly newly created addresses in older neighborhoods, e.g. my house, as I alluded to in an earlier post).

On the other hand, Shelby County at 930k is lower than the 2019 estimate of 937k by a decent amount.

That's just terrible but not surprising.  Memphis has THE WORST leadership in the country, from city to county to "chicken" man in the US House. Awful! Even their corporate leadership is lacking. Their Fortune 500 companies are bent on keeping their HQs in the suburbs. Of course, it's probably a chicken-egg situation. A few years ago the chamber of commerce president was murdered in a random robbery downtown.  They're trying, but it takes a leader. 

[PaulChinetti]

Memphis in my mind has an identity problem. Other than Bourbon Street, there’s the Fed Ex Cup, the huge Bass Pro shop, and…. one of my good friends is from there, haha.  
 

I’m not sure what else goes on there. 

2 hours ago, andywildman said:

Neely's Bend continues to floor me in its capacity to stay undeveloped.

Isn’t the bend all owned by a few people. So lots of large tracts?

[bnacincy]

Part of the identity problem may be that Bourbon Street is in New Orleans.

Beale Street is in Memphis.

Just sayin'.

 

[MLBrumby]

Beale Street!!!  But know what you mean  

[AsianintheNations]

Playing around with the 2020 census map viewer, which has visualization down to the census tract level: https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2021/geo/demographicmapviewer.html

Population density for Davidson County:

Only two census tracts over 10k/mi^2, so overall still a fairly spread-out city but typical for the South.

Inspection of the individual census tracts reveals which neighborhoods drove the big discrepancy between the 2019 ACS estimates and the 2020 Census. For instance, Census Tract 195 (mostly Downtown/Sobro/Gulch) came in at 12,414 (over 1.9 mi^2), compared to the 2019 estimate of only 7,956 (a difference of 56%). Similarly, Census Tract 194 (mostly Germantown) is at 8,285 for 2020, and was only estimated at 5,810 in 2019. On top of that, most people think the 2020 Census probably undercounted due to COVID limitations.

I of course am obligated to also comment on The Nations (Census Tract 133), which counted 5,165, compared to a prior estimate of 3,997 in 2019. Back on March 7, 2020, I had posted in the now-Davidson West thread my own estimate that the actual population (for 2020) was closer to 4,519, despite the latest official estimate at the time being 3,575 from the 2018 ACS. I had estimated 2,349 housing units (actual: 2,620), so my assumption of 1.9 residents per housing unit was actually spot-on, and my mistake was apparently undercounting housing units.

Other trivia:
Census Tract 9801, which is supposed to just be BNA, has a population of 14. I had read articles about people living in airports for months, but this is certainly more than I was expecting. (In all seriousness, I assume there's just a couple houses on the edge of the tract somewhere).
Census Tract 148, encompassing the Tony Sudekem public housing, is the densest tract at 16,622/mi^2.

There is so much more interesting stuff on there, but alas it is past bedtime for a weekday!

[chris holman]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.tennessean.com/amp/5559415001

[smeagolsfree]

Just based on what I am seeing, Davidson should surpass Shelby in population by the next census or very close to it based on current growth levels, but I think our % of growth is about to increase. WE should easily get 200k more resident in the next 10 years.

[PaulChinetti]

14 hours ago, bnacincy said:

Part of the identity problem may be that Bourbon Street is in New Orleans.

Beale Street is in Memphis.

Just sayin'.

 

HAHAHA, proved my own point on accident.