Nashville Bits and Pieces

[PaulChinetti]

Next, banning new SFH in the UZO. And getting rid of lots lines so that we can have row homes. 

I could be convinced of doing it different ways I've seen a number of different ones. Maybe that will be my next soapbox haha

[andywildman]

8 hours ago, PaulChinetti said:

Next, banning new SFH in the UZO. And getting rid of lots lines so that we can have row homes. 

I could be convinced of doing it different ways I've seen a number of different ones. Maybe that will be my next soapbox haha

I don’t support bans for SFH, but I’ll always get behind enabling denser development. Sign me up for eliminating side setbacks so we can do rowhomes.

[smeagolsfree]

12 hours ago, andywildman said:

I don’t support bans for SFH, but I’ll always get behind enabling denser development. Sign me up for eliminating side setbacks so we can do rowhomes.

Here, Here! agree 100%.

Metro made a mess of things in the nations by screwing up the side setbacks on a bunch of homes there. I am for eliminating the front setback as well and build them to the sidewalk and let people enjoy a back yard. In some areas, Metro can bring back those back alleys and if they can't bury the utilities then you put the utilities there. You make it a tradeoff.

[colemangaines]

On 10/28/2022 at 7:35 PM, andywildman said:

I don’t support bans for SFH, but I’ll always get behind enabling denser development. Sign me up for eliminating side setbacks so we can do rowhomes.

I think the language is often confusing - sometimes when people say "ban SFH" they literally mean don't allow single family homes to be built, but sometimes people (and I'm guilty of this) will use that same phrase to mean banning zoning that only allows single family homes and nothing else - maybe a better term would be deregulating single family zoning. I think that would be a huge move for middle TN. If developers could build duplexes, triplexes, rowhomes, etc. anywhere in the Nashville MSA, it could do a lot to control housing prices by letting the free market set home values instead of regulations giving them an artificial bump.

[bnacincy]

On 10/29/2022 at 9:17 AM, smeagolsfree said:

Here, Here! agree 100%.

Metro made a mess of things in the nations by screwing up the side setbacks on a bunch of homes there. I am for eliminating the front setback as well and build them to the sidewalk and let people enjoy a back yard. In some areas, Metro can bring back those back alleys and if they can't bury the utilities then you put the utilities there. You make it a tradeoff.

Denser is better......Memphis has a lot of neighborhoods where the utilities are in the back behind houses.

Makes the neighborhoods look a lot better than they otherwise would.

[andywildman]

3 hours ago, bnacincy said:

Denser is better......Memphis has a lot of neighborhoods where the utilities are in the back behind houses.

Makes the neighborhoods look a lot better than they otherwise would.

Agreed, see Old Hickory.

[markhollin]

FanDuel Bracket City Live will take place from on Lower Broadway March 16-18, 2023,  during the early rounds of postseason college basketball. The three-day event will be free and have music performances and activations throughout Lower Broadway and the riverfront.  Global design firm Populous — which has designed over 34 Super Bowls — will produce the event, with support from the Nashville Convention & Visitors Corp. Sports-tech company FanDuel Group will serve as the title sponsor. 

More at NBJ here:

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2022/11/01/lower-broadway-music-festival-brack-city-live.html


 

[sambo]

https://www.tennessean.com/picture-gallery/news/local/2022/10/26/nashville-photos-october-1997-middle-tennessee/10531425002/ lots of fun pictures in here including 

[Mr Gain]

On 11/1/2022 at 2:49 PM, markhollin said:

FanDuel Bracket City Live will take place from on Lower Broadway March 16-18, 2023,  during the early rounds of postseason college basketball. The three-day event will be free and have music performances and activations throughout Lower Broadway and the riverfront.  Global design firm Populous — which has designed over 34 Super Bowls — will produce the event, with support from the Nashville Convention & Visitors Corp. Sports-tech company FanDuel Group will serve as the title sponsor. 

More at NBJ here:

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2022/11/01/lower-broadway-music-festival-brack-city-live.html


 

So now  the rag isn't whining about tourism on "Lower Broadway".  People dancing and drinking in honky tonks are not a problem for them now as opposed to just a few days ago. So in essence for them,  event tourism is good and leisure tourism is bad. Despite the fact that its the leisure tourism that make the events want to come here in the first place.

Edited November 3, 2022 by Mr Gain

[Nash_12South]

The problem has never really been with event tourism. Those events are usually better policed and better controlled than the day to day life on Broadway. When you want to dismiss the concerns about the increased rowdiness on Broadway, consider where the voices are coming from. Is it really in the best interest of property owners, whether they be residential properties, commercial owners, downtown business and tourism leaders to bad mouth their home turf? And now with bar owners joining in, are they all really exaggerating that much. In going to my car, yesterday, on the upper floor of downtown parking garage I had to by pass where someone had pretty recently hurled, and it was 2pm in the afternoon, and this is not unusual.  

[Baronakim]

1 hour ago, Nash_12South said:

The problem has never really been with event tourism. Those events are usually better policed and better controlled than the day to day life on Broadway. When you want to dismiss the concerns about the increased rowdiness on Broadway, consider where the voices are coming from. Is it really in the best interest of property owners, whether they be residential properties, commercial owners, downtown business and tourism leaders to bad mouth their home turf? And now with bar owners joining in, are they all really exaggerating that much. In going to my car, yesterday, on the upper floor of downtown parking garage I had to by pass where someone had pretty recently hurled, and it was 2pm in the afternoon, and this is not unusual.  

Well, comments about folks hurling on Broadway are certainly in the right thread...Bits and Pieces.  Other cities and cultures have solved this problem with bodily wastes though but these solutions do not fit well into our perceptions of decorum.    When there are no  convenient facilities for bodily wastes where there are dense crowds, I'm afraid we must accept the results, in this case case defecating, urinating and vomiting on city sidewalks.  You can't blame all of this on the homeless either, as it happens with bridezillas and businessmen too when they overimbibe.  The ancient Romans had large public toilets and vomitoriums throughout their cities and more recently the French have pissiors even being installed today.   I expect that we will continue to deal with human frailties as long as we pack our entertainment districts so densely.  As an architect, I do have a suggestion that will likely reduce the occurances though.  As many of the venues are in older structures,  restrooms are jammed into too small existing spaces due to the owners wanting to maximize their cash producing areas.  Many I have seen are pathetically inadeqate and very nasty due to long lines for use and surfaces difficult to keep clean.   For instance, I would almost rather use a port-o-potty than the tiny restrooms off the dining area at a popular barbeque joint over on Gleaves Street in the Gulch.  Until better facilites are required, Nashvillians will just have to bear it.  Note that I am not addressing the rowdyness problem... that is a separate issue IMO.

Edited November 4, 2022 by Baronakim

[Nash_12South]

2 minutes ago, Baronakim said:

Well, comments about folks hurling on Broadway are certainly in the right thread...Bits and Pieces.  Other cities and cultures have solved this problem with bodily wastes though but these solutions do not fit well into our perceptions of decorum.    When there are no  convenient facilities for bodily wastes where there are dense crowds, I'm afraid we must accept the results, in this case case defecating, urinating and vomiting on city sidewalks.  You can't blame all of this on the homeless either, as it happens with bridezillas and businessmen too when they overimbibe.  The ancient Romans had large public toilets and vomitoriums throughout their cities and more recently the French have pissiors even being installed today.   I expect that we will continue to deal with human frailties as long as we pack our entertainment districts so densely.  As an architect, I do have a suggestion that will likely reduce the occurances though.  As many of the venues are in older structures,  restrooms are jammed into too small existing spaces due to the owners wanting to maximize their cash producing areas.  Many I have seen are pathetically inadeqate and very nasty due to long lines for use and surfaces difficult to keep clean.   For instance, I would almost rather use a port-o-potty than the tiny restrooms off the dining area at a popular barbeque joint over on Gleaves Street in the Gulch.  Until better facilites are required, Nashvillians will just have to bear it.  Note that I am not addressing the rowdyness problem... that is a separate issue IMO.

The homeless weren't on the 6th floor of the garage I typically park on. It's tourists, I see them in the garage every day I park there, and 90% of them are totally no problem. This type stuff is worse than in my 26 years of parking downtown.  I currently work downtown 3 days a week. These are my experiences. For the most part I've grown to ignore all the issues and just accept it's part if downtown life. But it is worse now.  Just my opinion, we have enough rules/laws in place now to handle things...if they were just enforced.

[MontanaGuy]

4 minutes ago, Nash_12South said:

The homeless weren't on the 6th floor of the garage I typically park on. It's tourists, I see them in the garage every day I park there, and 90% of them are totally no problem. This type stuff is worse than in my 26 years of parking downtown.  I currently work downtown 3 days a week. These are my experiences. For the most part I've grown to ignore all the issues and just accept it's part if downtown life. But it is worse now.  Just my opinion, we have enough rules/laws in place now to handle things...if they were just enforced.

Reading all of these comments kind of concerns me.  I just put my house up for sale in Hendersonville and I'm going to put an offer on a condo in the Viridian on Church street.  I sure hope I'm not making a mistake!

[Nash_12South]

3 minutes ago, MontanaGuy said:

Reading all of these comments kind of concerns me.  I just put my house up for sale in Hendersonville and I'm going to put an offer on a condo in the Viridian on Church street.  I sure hope I'm not making a mistake!

There are lots of positives to living downtown. They outweigh the bad. Those of us, who are downtown regularly, living and/or working,  just want to keep it that way. 

Edited November 4, 2022 by Nash_12South

[Mr Gain]

1 hour ago, Nash_12South said:

The problem has never really been with event tourism. Those events are usually better policed and better controlled than the day to day life on Broadway. When you want to dismiss the concerns about the increased rowdiness on Broadway, consider where the voices are coming from. Is it really in the best interest of property owners, whether they be residential properties, commercial owners, downtown business and tourism leaders to bad mouth their home turf? And now with bar owners joining in, are they all really exaggerating that much. In going to my car, yesterday, on the upper floor of downtown parking garage I had to by pass where someone had pretty recently hurled, and it was 2pm in the afternoon, and this is not unusual.  

The guy from Kid Rock's place was talking about the homeless and their lewd signs. The guy from Acme was crying about people not coming here for the moosic. So it looks like he's whining because people are taking selfies on the most famous street in the country. 

Well maybe it was from some lawyer who didn't make partner.

[PaulChinetti]

7 minutes ago, MontanaGuy said:

Reading all of these comments kind of concerns me.  I just put my house up for sale in Hendersonville and I'm going to put an offer on a condo in the Viridian on Church street.  I sure hope I'm not making a mistake!

I have friends that live there, it's amazing. 

[Baronakim]

30 minutes ago, Nash_12South said:

The homeless weren't on the 6th floor of the garage I typically park on. It's tourists, I see them in the garage every day I park there, and 90% of them are totally no problem. This type stuff is worse than in my 26 years of parking downtown.  I currently work downtown 3 days a week. These are my experiences. For the most part I've grown to ignore all the issues and just accept it's part if downtown life. But it is worse now.  Just my opinion, we have enough rules/laws in place now to handle things...if they were just enforced.

I live out in the sticks.  I piss in my fields when i need to and have to avold stepping in cow patties too.  When you have concentrated  numbers of human beings , you must accept the inevitable consequences of their collective behaviors.  I stated in my post that the homeless were not singularly responsible for the problem, nor do I affix blame on  just tourists as just did you.  Incidents from illness or overindulgence happen in proportion to event type and density.  I mentioned some observations in my capacities as an architect.  You have crowds, you get increased problem results.  The venues pay more attention to the buck than the puke.  I disagree "rules and enforcement" are realistic solutions to the problem.  IMO inprovement in facilities would better ameliorate the problem.  Crap happens.

Edited November 4, 2022 by Baronakim

[downtownresident]

19 minutes ago, MontanaGuy said:

Reading all of these comments kind of concerns me.  I just put my house up for sale in Hendersonville and I'm going to put an offer on a condo in the Viridian on Church street.  I sure hope I'm not making a mistake!

That section of Downtown is probably may favorite, love the large trees along Church Street, not too close to Broadway but also not too far. Will be very close to all that is going on at Nashville Yards. 

[MontanaGuy]

24 minutes ago, PaulChinetti said:

I have friends that live there, it's amazing. 

That's good to hear!  The view from the condo is incredible, it faces Nashville Yards!

[Rick Dalton]

Church Street is great except for all the homeless

[MontanaGuy]

15 minutes ago, downtownresident said:

That section of Downtown is probably may favorite, love the large trees along Church Street, not too close to Broadway but also not too far. Will be very close to all that is going on at Nashville Yards. 

It's really appealing to me too!  My realtor also lives in that building and he really likes it.  Hopefully it can happen soon!

[Nathan_in_DC]

On 10/28/2022 at 12:02 PM, PaulChinetti said:

Next, banning new SFH in the UZO. And getting rid of lots lines so that we can have row homes. 

I could be convinced of doing it different ways I've seen a number of different ones. Maybe that will be my next soapbox haha

I live in a 1940s rowhouse in Alexandria, VA right now...part of a bunch of housing built by the railroad to house workers at the massive Potomac Yards back in the day. I'm convinced that it is a great way to create moderately dense, walkable neighborhood, especially if paired with decent transit connections and with commercial zones integrated or nearby (e.g., corner shops and cafes in the neighborhood, and supermarkets on the periphery). Throw in an alleyway and you can even have a little bit of a back yard and parking spot in a pretty compact package.  Even concerns with noise aren't much of an issue with brick, concrete, or cinder block firewalls, and it's infinitely better than a stick frame apartment because of the lack of upstairs or downstairs neighbors.

[e-dub]

I lived in the Bennie Dillon for a few years before having to move away from Nashville, and will be moving back to Church Street as soon as I can. Church is a fantastic street to live on. It seemed to me the homeless folks didn't bother people that lived in the neighborhood, and I walked up and down the street a lot.

Edited November 9, 2022 by e-dub

[Flatrock]

On 11/4/2022 at 7:38 AM, Nash_12South said:

, on the upper floor of downtown parking garage I had to by pass where someone had pretty recently hurled, and it was 2pm in the afternoon, and this is not unusual.  

I was NOWHERE NEAR the upper floor of your parking garage at 2pm that day ...

[CenterHill]

Interesting article about an autonomous vehicle test to be conducted by Vanderbilt, but come on with the out of date stock photo…ugh