SoBro Hilton Garden Inn - 10 Floors - ~140'

[MTSUBlueraider86]

William had a story about this on Nashville Post. I don't have the article, but here is the link.

Should be a nice addition. The rendering looks fairly nice, and being on that hill, it will look 200 feet tall for 11 stories!

If my math is correct:

Omni 800 rooms

Hyatt 250 rooms

Hilton 200 rooms

Do we need any more rooms than that?

P2 any ideas?

MT

[dmillsphoto]

Wow... that's pretty decent looking. Actually, not half bad at all. Hopefully a larger version of the render comes out soon and we get a better idea of the scale of the thing.

[UTgrad09]

I forget, but where exactly is the property on KVB?

[dmillsphoto]

I forget, but where exactly is the property on KVB?

419 3rd Ave S.

This is the Street View behind the Rutledge, looking N to downtown.

[NashRugger]

This appears to have good potential, but I'll reserve total judgement until further renderings are released.

[UTgrad09]

419 3rd Ave S.

This is the Street View behind the Rutledge, looking N to downtown.

Thanks. That's kind of where I figured. Should work well there.

[smeagolsfree]

Here is the rendering for you guys.

[timmay143]

Hmm...not a big fan of the blank sidewalk there.

[producer2]

William had a story about this on Nashville Post. I don't have the article, but here is the link.

Should be a nice addition. The rendering looks fairly nice, and being on that hill, it will look 200 feet tall for 11 stories!

If my math is correct:

Omni 800 rooms

Hyatt 250 rooms

Hilton 200 rooms

Do we need any more rooms than that?

P2 any ideas?

MT

It's more about full service vs. limited service hotels. We still need more full service.

[East Side Urbanite]

I actually think this will look solid. I suggested to the developer (Chartwell) the use of a medium gray to charcoal stucco (no beige, cream, etc.) and they were receptive. The corner piece will look cool. And yes, it should look much taller than it will be given that elevation.

As to full-service, P2 is correct. We can handle the additional rooms.

WW

[Nashvillain]

Why is it surrounded by a concrete barrier? It looks like its being designed by the department of homeland security.

[barakat]

I agree that this building does not address the street as it should. Why was it done this way?

[UTgrad09]

I think we need to take into account that this is just a rendering...the final design might be a bit better.

I do agree it does need to address the street better, too...even if there is no direct entrance there, I think a restaurant on the lower level (perhaps partially below ground, or even with the KVB street level) with glass or a patio would be much better than a big concrete wall. Leaving the concrete wall is an open invitation to get tagged with graffiti.

[fieldmarshaldj]

Here is the rendering for you guys.

Sorry, but that entire design is ghastly bad, from the graffiti canvas on up. Whatever happened to classical design ? How about a nice Second Empire-revival style ?

[MTSUBlueraider86]

Davy, this is almost 2013. It is what it is.

I wonder when the start date is. Could we have the Hyatt, Hilton, and Omni all going up at the same time? Crane City!

[fieldmarshaldj]

The year we live in is no excuse for poor architecture. Developers and builders should always strive to design and construct the best.

[MTSUBlueraider86]

i don't think it is that bad. Davy, you would find a great home in Europe where you can have all of the 15th Century architecture you want.

[Nashvillain]

This building looks more like an embassy compound than a hotel on a potentially busy, vibrant corridor of downtown.

[fieldmarshaldj]

i don't think it is that bad. Davy, you would find a great home in Europe where you can have all of the 15th Century architecture you want.

Yeah, it REALLY is that bad. It doesn't have to be 15th century (and Mansard-style is 19th). This country has built plenty of classy and timeless structures (look at Symphony Hall, for heaven's sake). We need more of that type of architecture and less of this disposable looking crap. A beautiful structure that featured a nouveau Second Empire style (or even Art Deco) would go a long way into swift occupation of the building, it might also start a trend for more stylish architecture.

Edited July 18, 2012 by fieldmarshaldj

[Nashvillain]

i don't think it is that bad. Davy, you would find a great home in Europe where you can have all of the 15th Century architecture you want.

And you would find a great home in New York or Chicago where you can have all the skyscrapers you want.

[dmillsphoto]

Yeah, it REALLY is that bad. It doesn't have to be 15th century (and Mansard-style is 19th). This country has built plenty of classy and timeless structures (look at Symphony Hall, for heaven's sake). We need more of that type of architecture and less of this disposable looking crap. A beautiful structure that featured a nouveau Second Empire style (or even Art Deco) would go a long way into swift occupation of the building, it might also start a trend for more stylish architecture.

Alright... I've been trying to avoid this conversation but I have to get in it now. And please don't perceive this as an attack - more of my opinion than anything. That said - building a beautiful structure that is of the SE/Deco style isn't going to do anything for occupation of the building. Businesses, from a business perspective, don't move into buildings for how they look, they move in because of the perks they get. Egotistical law firms and banks move into buildings because of how they look. And they will stay closer to the core. I think this building is fine. It plays well off of RMH.

[MTSUBlueraider86]

Your sarcasm aside, Believe me if I could afford to live in a real city like Chicago, NYC, San Francisco, Toronto, Montreal, Philipelphia, Boston, I would in a minute!

And you would find a great home in New York or Chicago where you can have all the skyscrapers you want.

[Nathan_in_DC]

Your sarcasm aside, Believe me if I could afford to live in a real city like Chicago, NYC, San Francisco, Toronto, Montreal, Philipelphia, Boston, I would in a minute!

In my experience, Philadelphia is just as cheap as Nashville if you play your cards right.

Playing your cards right may involve living in a part of town that resembles Sarajevo in 1994, but hey...

[BnaBreaker]

I don't have a problem with the design of this hotel at all aside from that damn blank wall that surrounds the entire thing. THAT is what is a travesty in my mind. Think about all the famous grand avenues in the world, and then think about how they'd look if each building was fronted by a blank wall. They wouldn't be the renown places that they are, that's for sure. I mean, the entire point of building right up to the street is to encourage pedestrian activity and make it easier to walk from place to place. But that wall just defeats the purpose of building up to the street. I hope they at LEAST get rid of the wall on KVB.

[barakat]

The blank walks on the two major streets as shows in the drawing don't seem to factor in the KVB design guidelines. I'm curious if they got an exemption.

http://www.nashville.gov/mpc/docs/urban/gateway_blvd_design_guidelines.pdf