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Comparison between Indy and Jax

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Jacksonville

Population 800,000

City size 840 sq. mi.

Stadium size 73,000

TV market rank 52nd

Median age 35.3

Media household income $40,300

City council members 19

Annual visitors 3.6 million

Hotel rooms downtown 2,350

Most famous author Stephen Crane

Most famous athlete David Duval

High on Oct. 1, 2003 70

Low on Oct. 1, 2003 64

Taxi to/from airport $20

Unemployment rate 3.1 percent

Sales tax 7 percent

Fortune 500 company headquarters 3

Downtown parking spaces 41,500

Employees downtown 62,000

Downtown residents 1,500

Value of avg. home $96,900

Percent over 65 10.5

Percent Hispanic 4.1

Interstates 2

Indianapolis

Population 1.65 million

City size 396 sq. mi.

Stadium size 56,127

TV market rank 26th

Median age 34.6

Media household income $40,050

City council members 29

Annual visitors 18 million

Hotel rooms downtown 5,350

Most famous author Kurt Vonnegut

Most famous athlete Oscar Robertson

High on Oct. 1, 2003 47

Low on Oct. 1, 2003 34

Taxi to/from airport $21

Unemployment rate 4.7 percent

Sales tax 7 percent

Fortune 500 company headquarters 3

Downtown parking spaces 68,000

Employees downtown 106,500

Downtown residents 17,200

Value of avg. home $136,900

Percent over 65 11

Percent Hispanic 3.9

Interstates 5

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^^ This is from Downtown This Week. The population figures are actually closer than listed. The Indy figure is metro. The Jax figure is Jax proper only. The Jax metro figure is 1.1-1.2 million. As you can see, both cities are very similiar.

I visited Indy last year and it has an impressive downtown. I was there only on the weekend and there was a lot of activity throughout all parts of downtown, all day and night. In particular, I think what Jax can learn from Indy the most, is the value of a residential base augmented with a sizeable convention visitor segment.

One unuusual feature is an enclosed mall downtown. It was heavy subsidized by the city, and built by the locally based mall developer Simon. Simon owns The Avenues and I think Orange Park Mall as well.

Note that 17,000 people live in downtown Indy. From what I saw, most don't live in high-rises.

Also of note is the way they built a 4" deep concrete canal through an area just west of the downtown core, and it has been a magnet for all kinds of development. Jax could do the same thing with the Riverwalk/Hogan's Creek/Klutho Park/McCoy's Creek. One big green loop around the downtown core/LaVilla/Cathedral area.

Has anyone else been there?

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