First Ward Urban Village / North Tryon Vision Plan

[j-man]

21 hours ago, DMann said:

There are no pretty parking garages!!!

 

There are some. Just not in Charlotte.

[TCLT]

[emoji848]



And no the site isn’t fenced off, just the driveway. But the garage openings have a fence with barbed wire going across them.

[Matthew.Brendan]

Yeah there was a whole line of construction vehicles parked along 11th and round the corner onto Brevard this morning. Not sure what's up.

[Blue_Devil]

32 minutes ago, Matthew.Brendan said:

Yeah there was a whole line of construction vehicles parked along 11th and round the corner onto Brevard this morning. Not sure what's up.

His plan was to get cheaper interest rates all along! 

[TCLT]

1 hour ago, Matthew.Brendan said:

Yeah there was a whole line of construction vehicles parked along 11th and round the corner onto Brevard this morning. Not sure what's up.

I swung by there and I don't think it is related to the ruins. Looked like something was being done in the middle lanes and there was a truck with a cable spool. Maybe something utility related?

Second photo is the barrier at the deck entrance on Brevard. There's also one of those at each cutout facing the rusty columns. And the last photo I included because I thought it was an interesting contrast looking through the remnants of Levine's project at the much more ambitious Ellis racing towards completion.

[Guest]

I think we should crowd fund a mayan themed mural to go on this building. 

[Mgelbach]

Has anyone ventured past the fences into the actual deck?

I have a "Friend" who really wants to go take skyline pictures from the top.

Edited March 27, 2020 by Mgelbach

[KJHburg]

19 hours ago, TCLT said:

And no the site isn’t fenced off, just the driveway. But the garage openings have a fence with barbed wire going across them.

Crane overhead?  does that mean the Lennar Ellis crane is swinging all the way over from 2 blocks???

[Guest]

Puts on Tinfoil hat: What if Daniel Levine started Covid-19 to keep from having to build anything for another 5 years.

[TCLT]

On 5/16/2020 at 4:54 PM, Tyree Ricardo said:

Puts on Tinfoil hat: What if Daniel Levine started Covid-19 to keep from having to build anything for another 5 years.

The 5G conspiracy is more believable. If Levine was developing a new coronavirus it would still be unfinished in a lab somewhere.

On the plus side, there's still an attempt to put a sidewalk on Brevard. Unfortunately they decided to plop utility equipment directly into the path of the sidewalk which looks just fantastic. So this project's tradition of incompetence and disappointment is still strong. Still plenty of tetanus opportunities too! We know Levine is not capable of feeling shame, but the city/county should be embarrassed at allowing this to exist in such a condition for so long.

[Blue_Devil]

11 minutes ago, TCLT said:

The 5G conspiracy is more believable. If Levine was developing a new coronavirus it would still be unfinished in a lab somewhere.

On the plus side, there's still an attempt to put a sidewalk on Brevard. Unfortunately they decided to plop utility equipment directly into the path of the sidewalk which looks just fantastic. So this project's tradition of incompetence and disappointment is still strong. Still plenty of tetanus opportunities too! We know Levine is not capable of feeling shame, but the city/county should be embarrassed at allowing this to exist in such a condition for so long.

Lol, Jesus....

[tozmervo]

14 minutes ago, TCLT said:

On the plus side, there's still an attempt to put a sidewalk on Brevard. Unfortunately they decided to plop utility equipment directly into the path of the sidewalk which looks just fantastic. So this project's tradition of incompetence and disappointment is still strong. Still plenty of tetanus opportunities too! We know Levine is not capable of feeling shame, but the city/county should be embarrassed at allowing this to exist in such a condition for so long.

I'm surprised that wasn't caught in the city planning review. Those gray components are temporary (er, well, usually temporary). But the green transformer shouldn't be, unless there was some construction-related phasing plan to move it later (which I highly doubt). 

[AuLukey]

It’s time for some good old fashioned eminent domain’in

 

[Guest]

6 hours ago, tozmervo said:

I'm surprised that wasn't caught in the city planning review. Those gray components are temporary (er, well, usually temporary). But the green transformer shouldn't be, unless there was some construction-related phasing plan to move it later (which I highly doubt). 

I’ve never once walked through a city, and been like damn, thats an ugly fudgeing place to put utilities. But like can’t go 2 blocks in Charlotte without saying it

[Urban Cowboy]

There were some folks with a large drill completing soil testing here yesterday. I’m not aware of any plans, and I believe this is owned by Mecklenburg County...but could be mistaken.

Does anyone have insight?

[Third Strike]

53 minutes ago, Urban Cowboy said:

There were some folks with a large drill completing soil testing here yesterday. I’m not aware of any plans, and I believe this is owned by Mecklenburg County...but could be mistaken.

Does anyone have insight?

I posted about it a few weeks ago in the North End topic, but got no follow-up. Only thing I was able to find is a permit for apartments in Accela. 

[KJHburg]

1 hour ago, Urban Cowboy said:

There were some folks with a large drill completing soil testing here yesterday. I’m not aware of any plans, and I believe this is owned by Mecklenburg County...but could be mistaken.

Does anyone have insight?

Here is who owns it not the county:   It would be great to see something built there even apartments.

Owner: Samar Ismaiel & Ahmad Ismaiel

Land Use: Multi Family Dwelling

2.33 Acres

Last sold on 05/04/2012 for $765,000   Their taxes went from around $8000 in 2018 to about $40,000 in 2019 no wonder they are developing it too expensive to keep vacant.

Edited May 19, 2020 by KJHburg

[DMann]

What an incredible view of the city from that parcel!

[Desert Power]

4 hours ago, DMann said:

What an incredible view of the city from that parcel!

Unparralled views of homeless encampments too.

[KJHburg]

14 minutes ago, Desert Power said:

Unparralled views of homeless encampments too.

I drove down N College St where it merges into N Tryon and that is a huge Los Angeles size homeless camp.  This has to be cleared and people put in treatment, temporary housing, halfway houses or whatever it takes.  That is a black eye to this city and a failure of our political leadership in my opinion.  This does not have to be tolerated and when a basketball game outside is consider a health hazard and this is not???  This is shameful! 

[tozmervo]

I know the county rented a hotel somewhere to house people in separate rooms - does anyone know if that's still going on? 

[kermit]

37 minutes ago, tozmervo said:

I know the county rented a hotel somewhere to house people in separate rooms - does anyone know if that's still going on? 

Not sure if it is still happening, I got the impression it was limited to infected people (not sure) and it was only for around 100 (ish) people. The program also corresponded to local shelters reducing their overnight capacity to enable more distancing (which appears to be what created the more visible camps adjacent to the shelters).

Edited May 19, 2020 by kermit

[KJHburg]

On the North Tryon project slow progress. CHA or Inlivian has broke off their part of the project the old Hall House from the rest of the project but here is what is happening with the rest according to the Biz Journal.

"""In its current form, the Seventh and Tryon project is expected to include:

Subterranean and above-grade parking

A 160,000-square-foot mixed-use structure

A 450,000-square-foot office tower

A multifamily component "to be further defined"

Retail space

Three affordable housing options, including funding units offsite and those are: 

Hahn said the county has come up with three options to fund affordable housing, including:

An on-site master lease, which would result in 36 affordable units at the Seventh and Tryon project;

Funding affordable units for a project on Inlivian's site, which includes the Hall House and an adjacent surface parking lot;

Funding affordable units in developments outside of uptown, which would result in 207 units being funded in, likely, three separate projects."""

They should do the 3rd choice as you get more units which we need in the suburbs. 

https://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/news/2020/05/20/mecklenburg-board-seventh-tryon-affordable-housing.html

[SydneyCarton]

21 hours ago, KJHburg said:

I drove down N College St where it merges into N Tryon and that is a huge Los Angeles size homeless camp.  This has to be cleared and people put in treatment, temporary housing, halfway houses or whatever it takes.  That is a black eye to this city and a failure of our political leadership in my opinion.  This does not have to be tolerated and when a basketball game outside is consider a health hazard and this is not???  This is shameful! 

Unfortunately, homelessness occurs everywhere.  I was shocked to see that it exists on Franklin Street when I first moved to Chapel Hill.

[TCLT]

40 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

Hahn said the county has come up with three options to fund affordable housing, including:

An on-site master lease, which would result in 36 affordable units at the Seventh and Tryon project;

Funding affordable units for a project on Inlivian's site, which includes the Hall House and an adjacent surface parking lot;

Funding affordable units in developments outside of uptown, which would result in 207 units being funded in, likely, three separate projects."""

They should do the 3rd choice as you get more units which we need in the suburbs. 

I disagree. The affordable units should be in uptown. It'll contribute to a more vibrant and equitable city. The idea of affordable/workforce housing is to let people live in close proximity to job opportunities. There are probably thousands of low wage workers uptown (fast food, service, hotel staff, janitorial, etc). It isn't helpful or fair to push low wage workers that are necessary for a city to function to the city's fringes and force them into long and expensive commutes. Providing uptown housing options makes it possible for those people to work without a car or incredibly long public transit rides. It gives them more time with their families. And you get better outcomes when you mix residents of various socioeconomic statuses. We shouldn't continue to segregate the poor in affordable housing projects away from job opportunities, cultural amenities, and more well off people.