First Ward Urban Village / North Tryon Vision Plan

[RANYC]

1 hour ago, tozmervo said:

This may not be the reason specifically, but at the same time: It is really hard to over-exaggerate how f*kd the construction market is right now.

You're worried about some cheap plastic toy for Christmas? Contractors are panicking when even basic light fixtures are suddenly 3-4 month lead times. Fiber cement siding is unavailable until '22. Carpet and tile selections are extremely limited. You wanted long span steel trusses? Guess what, you're now redesigning to use something else. Etc, etc. 

I suppose.  The county spokeswoman didn't cite construction or even shortages forcing redesign as reasons for delay.  Instead, it sounds like the level of coordination between both projects is responsible.

[videtur quam contuor]

Went to Apple store for new ipad last week. No ipads in NC Apple stores. Charleston SC is closest. Order and wait a month (maybe). She was kind enough to check Best Buy and they showed inventory so went straight there. Bought the last one.

[Desert Power]

On 10/22/2021 at 11:20 AM, Matthew.Brendan said:

to help pass the time:

 

On a semi-related note, don't the Rock Hill signs at exit 79 come from a historic Charlotte building? I thought that was something I've read here, but cannot recall the exact story.

[KJHburg]

2 hours ago, Desert Power said:

On a semi-related note, don't the Rock Hill signs at exit 79 come from a historic Charlotte building? I thought that was something I've read here, but cannot recall the exact story.

they took some columns from the old Masonic Temple on S Tryon where the wells fargo plaza is now today.  those columns are on Dave Lyle Blvd I think 

[SydneyCarton]

This is going to be simply spectacular!

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article255308596.html

 

Edited October 27, 2021 by SydneyCarton

[tozmervo]

It's funny. I thought about popping over to the library this week just to see it one more time, but there's so little notable about it that it doesn't compel me to make the three block walk up there. 

[videtur quam contuor]

On the pillars outside the main doors for years they had quotes about books and reading. All good and pithy.  My favorite was Thomas Aquinas:  Beware the man who reads one book.

[DMann]

I liked Groucho Marx: "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."

[TCLT]

I got curious about what Levine owns in First Ward and how it's owned. Seems that his holdings are split between 4 ownership entities. Obviously the Ellis hotel is its own entity because it is a joint venture with the hotel developer, but is there any rhyme or reason to why certain parcels would be in each of the other entities? Is there any insight to be gleaned by this? 

 

Edited November 10, 2021 by TCLT
added golden triangle parcel that atlrvr pointed out. thx.

[turbocraig]

10 minutes ago, TCLT said:

I got curious about what Levine owns in First Ward and how it's owned. Seems that his holdings are split between 4 ownership entities. Obviously the Ellis hotel is its own entity because it is a joint venture with the hotel developer, but is there any rhyme or reason to why certain parcels would be in each of the other entities? Is there any insight to be gleaned by this? 

The other day I was driving on Brevard and passed this building that’s the one in the 500-531 block (corner of 9th and Brevard) in the map above.  It had previously been boarded up so this Google image must be somewhat dated, but the front entry was open and looks like interior demo was happening.  Maybe?  Anyone know anything about this one?

[atlrvr]

25 minutes ago, TCLT said:

I got curious about what Levine owns in First Ward and how it's owned. Seems that his holdings are split between 4 ownership entities. Obviously the Ellis hotel is its own entity because it is a joint venture with the hotel developer, but is there any rhyme or reason to why certain parcels would be in each of the other entities? Is there any insight to be gleaned by this? 

The remainder of the block along 6th between Brevard and Caldwell is also controlled by him.  Golden Triangle #xx is a series of investments (there are parcels all around town with different series numbers) I believe with minority partners for apartment construction.  

I don't know the difference between Ninth and Seventh St.  301 Seventh is specific to that parcel that was related to a transaction with the county for the park.  Concord Levine is that way as a JV to develop the hotel (Levine is contributing the land as an equity stake in that development)

[Madison Parkitect]

6 hours ago, TCLT said:

I got curious about what Levine owns in First Ward and how it's owned. Seems that his holdings are split between 4 ownership entities. Obviously the Ellis hotel is its own entity because it is a joint venture with the hotel developer, but is there any rhyme or reason to why certain parcels would be in each of the other entities? Is there any insight to be gleaned by this? 

 

Knowing him, he probably thinks the more LLCs he has the more successful he seems.

[RugbyPike#11]

8 hours ago, Madison Parkitect said:

Knowing him, he probably thinks the more LLCs he has the more successful he seems.

"I own six different property companies in uptown alone!"

[SydneyCarton]

This is going to be an amazing addition to an already spectacular part of Tryon.

 

[KJHburg]

From a Q and A segment of the Charlotte Ledger on the parking garage in 1st Ward that is unfinished.  So nothing is lost in quoting I am quoting the whole part:

 

I've got a 'You Ask, We Answer' for you ... my kids go to Lab School in uptown, and the entire block just northeast of it has been an eyesore for years, outside of the completed but empty parking garage. Address is (kind of) 707 N. Brevard St. Levine said there's an apartment JV discussion underway, but that was a while back.

Ah yes, if you spend any time in First Ward you’ll recognize this empty parcel on Caldwell Street between 10th and 11th streets, with odd looking pillars sticking up out of the ground, adjacent to a vacant parking garage.

The land is owned by Levine Properties, so we emailed company president Daniel Levine for an update. He replied:

The Parking Deck just north of the Charlotte Lab School is a priority for us and will have an apartment project developed around it. I can’t comment on timing but am encouraged with other developments in First ward that connect our site to the built environment around 7th and Tryon streets.

If you’ve been following the plans for that land, that probably sounds familiar. Apartments on the site have been discussed for years, as described in this Charlotte Business Journal article from 2015. — CB

>>> I have nothing to add to this but to say I did not ask the question.  

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2 hours ago, KJHburg said:

From a Q and A segment of the Charlotte Ledger on the parking garage in 1st Ward that is unfinished.  So nothing is lost in quoting I am quoting the whole part:

 

I've got a 'You Ask, We Answer' for you ... my kids go to Lab School in uptown, and the entire block just northeast of it has been an eyesore for years, outside of the completed but empty parking garage. Address is (kind of) 707 N. Brevard St. Levine said there's an apartment JV discussion underway, but that was a while back.

Ah yes, if you spend any time in First Ward you’ll recognize this empty parcel on Caldwell Street between 10th and 11th streets, with odd looking pillars sticking up out of the ground, adjacent to a vacant parking garage.

The land is owned by Levine Properties, so we emailed company president Daniel Levine for an update. He replied:

The Parking Deck just north of the Charlotte Lab School is a priority for us and will have an apartment project developed around it. I can’t comment on timing but am encouraged with other developments in First ward that connect our site to the built environment around 7th and Tryon streets.

If you’ve been following the plans for that land, that probably sounds familiar. Apartments on the site have been discussed for years, as described in this Charlotte Business Journal article from 2015. — CB

>>> I have nothing to add to this but to say I did not ask the question.  

Predicting that an apartment complex will never be built by Levine on that land doesn't require one to go out on a limb. Now, someone ask him when he is going to start restoring the Treloar House (never is the obvious answer and he will blame the ensuing deterioration when he clears it for more parking). Daniel must be such an embarrassment to his uncle Leon...

[TCLT]

2 hours ago, KJHburg said:

From a Q and A segment of the Charlotte Ledger on the parking garage in 1st Ward that is unfinished.  So nothing is lost in quoting I am quoting the whole part:

 

I've got a 'You Ask, We Answer' for you ... my kids go to Lab School in uptown, and the entire block just northeast of it has been an eyesore for years, outside of the completed but empty parking garage. Address is (kind of) 707 N. Brevard St. Levine said there's an apartment JV discussion underway, but that was a while back.

Ah yes, if you spend any time in First Ward you’ll recognize this empty parcel on Caldwell Street between 10th and 11th streets, with odd looking pillars sticking up out of the ground, adjacent to a vacant parking garage.

The land is owned by Levine Properties, so we emailed company president Daniel Levine for an update. He replied:

The Parking Deck just north of the Charlotte Lab School is a priority for us and will have an apartment project developed around it. I can’t comment on timing but am encouraged with other developments in First ward that connect our site to the built environment around 7th and Tryon streets.

If you’ve been following the plans for that land, that probably sounds familiar. Apartments on the site have been discussed for years, as described in this Charlotte Business Journal article from 2015. — CB

>>> I have nothing to add to this but to say I did not ask the question.  

I don't understand why local journalists take such a light touch with him. He provides the same non-answer year after year and it's published without any context for the public to take at face value. Just reading this statement one would be forgiven if they believed Levine was actually working on something. With what he gets away with you'd think he built the closets that everyone stores their skeletons in, but closets are probably beyond his ability too.

[JRCLT]

I wonder what he’s waiting on or what he’s thinking personally (What is going on internally). He can’t comment because the delivery date is in? What? 2099? Rolling in his grave without ever done anything. Media just needs to be more transparent on his timelines/responses and be much more critical.

[RANYC]

Does this city have any anti-blight ordinances?  Should more property owners in and around center city erect the concrete version of stonehenge on their lots set amidst overgrown grass, and with that dare the city to take action or pursue recourse? 

There must be something at work here that makes Levine so untouchable.  I suppose one can make campaign, museum, and charitable contributions worth only a fraction of the cost to actually bring your property up to a standard of decency, and that fraction will be enough to silence those who should be demanding and mandating improvements.

[SydneyCarton]

This is an old article, but if the renderings are accurate, they look very nice.

https://charlotte.axios.com/227938/what-to-expect-from-the-600-million-seventh-and-tryon-redevelopment-uptown/

Edited December 20, 2021 by SydneyCarton

[RANYC]

I seem to recall someone posting that Publix-anchored Ten Tryon was seeking building permits as a residential project.  Does anyone have an update on this, or is the project completely dead?  

[https://www.foundrycommercial.com/properties/retail/ten-tryon.stml] > Clearly not breaking ground in Q2 2021

[http://armadahoffler.com/properties/ten-tyron/] > Nope, no occupancy in 2022

 

[TheRealClayton]

2 hours ago, RANYC said:

I seem to recall someone posting that Publix-anchored Ten Tryon was seeking building permits as a residential project.  Does anyone have an update on this, or is the project completely dead?  

[https://www.foundrycommercial.com/properties/retail/ten-tryon.stml] > Clearly not breaking ground in Q2 2021

[http://armadahoffler.com/properties/ten-tyron/] > Nope, no occupancy in 2022

 

Its definitely not dead, I ran into David Furman at a function in December, he said its still happening, just working through some issues. 

Edited January 5, 2022 by TheRealClayton

[KJHburg]

High rise alert!

The Levine Museum of the New South sold their site to a NY developer for a high rise apartment tower so reports the Charlotte Ledger!

""The Levine Museum of the New South has sold its building uptown to a New York developer, which is planning to build a high-rise apartment tower on the site, the museum announced this afternoon.  The Levine Museum — which has been an uptown staple since 1996 — sold its 0.7-acre site for $10.75M to Vela Uptown LLC, “a New York-based development company that plans a high-rise apartment building for a range of tenants,” the museum said in a news release.  Vela is partnering with Connecticut-based luxury apartment developer Post Road Residential on the project, the museum said.""  Charlotte Ledger 

partnering with this CT based firm 

https://www.postroadresidential.com/

Edited March 31, 2022 by KJHburg

[DMann]

Eye candy please!

[Third Strike]

Just now, KJHburg said:

High rise alert!

The Levine Museum of the New South sold their site to a NY developer for a high rise apartment tower so reports the Charlotte Ledger!

""The Levine Museum of the New South has sold its building uptown to a New York developer, which is planning to build a high-rise apartment tower on the site, the museum announced this afternoon.  The Levine Museum — which has been an uptown staple since 1996 — sold its 0.7-acre site for $10.75M to Vela Uptown LLC, “a New York-based development company that plans a high-rise apartment building for a range of tenants,” the museum said in a news release.  Vela is partnering with Connecticut-based luxury apartment developer Post Road Residential on the project, the museum said.""  Charlotte Ledger 

Any idea if the museum is relocating elsewhere in Uptown?