First Ward Urban Village / North Tryon Vision Plan

[Bikeguy]

There is also another good Business Journal Article about the plan to put the new Farmers Market in 1st Ward Park! That greatly excites me!

http://www.bizjourna...ard_market.html

here that is!

What happened to the market that was planned for City Green...???

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 08:25 AM

From the "O" ...

"Over the years, city leaders have visited public markets in Seattle and Philadelphia, and Dewberry said Spectrum's goal is to pattern its market after those well-known facilities.

The market would operate from about 10,000 square feet of indoor space, but would include outdoor space for fresh-food pavilions during the spring and summer months. "

10,000 sq ft for a Farmers Market ??? Pleeeease.. Check out Philly's Reading Terminal Market...

http://www.galenfrys...inal_market.htm

Now THIS is a Downtown/Uptown Market!!!

[InitialD]

[AlmaPinnix]

Construction progress of the Center City UNCC building

[dubone]

Pretty much half way up with the structure. The original finish date was this fall. At this rate, it seems like they're still headed there.

[Urbanity]

Some good news that seems to have been missed: The First Ward Park is going ahead starting this Fall with completion scheduled for 2012.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/03/21/1324756/first-ward-park-is-ready-to-begin.html

[krazeeboi]

^That's certainly good news. Would love to hear that its counterpart, Romare Bearden Park, will be under construction this fall as well.

[dubone]

Hopefully both will happen and around completion in 2012 there will be some level of development activity to help grow the area around those two parks.

http://charmeck.org/Departments/Park+and+Rec/Inside+The+Department/Divisions/Park+Planning/FirstWard.htm

This is the first time I've seen the concept of two-levels of balconies on the Dixies Building. I like the idea.

They've also updated the design somewhat significantly, although the elements are the same:

http://charmeck.org/NR/rdonlyres/euf4wwdhsbqmkl7swr4gmz4anfh3327tr46jsf7kxihfmhi2dau6lpd776slqytzfykysekzrhdzk36k5i3ckcqptdh/masterplan.pdf

[HopHead]

^Wow, that's allowed in uptown? I love it! Finally something that's not shiny and covered in glass!

[New Name]

Excellent! That is certainly moving First Ward in the right direction.

gine it: the rest of Uptown basically shuns sidewalk/pedestrian interaction - and First Ward gives us TWO floors of streetfront stimuli

[sammyjoey]

Why are they going to run 8th street through the middle of the park between Market and Brevard? The plan shows "traffic calming" (speed bumps, I assume), but why have the street run through the park in the first place?

[dubone]

You can read back through the thread, but the council voted on this and opted to keep the street, as it is very low volumes, and did not want to curtail connectivity. It is controversial, but is decided and done.

[Guest]

You can read back through the thread, but the council voted on this and opted to keep the street, as it is very low volumes, and did not want to curtail connectivity. It is controversial, but is decided and done.

Also to add to this statement, they are going to add a curve in the road as well as pavers as both an Aesthetic element and to make the road slower.

[dubone]

8th St thru here is actually smaller than roads that go thru all sorts of parks. It is not ideal, but was a compromise. It is nothing like the high volume 3rd St thoroughfare that would have gone by the original 3rd Ward Park location.

[InitialD]

8th St thru here is actually smaller than roads that go thru all sorts of parks. It is not ideal, but was a compromise. It is nothing like the high volume 3rd St thoroughfare that would have gone by the original 3rd Ward Park location.

I remember at one point there was talk of removable bollards but I'm sure they were scratched. I think it would be good to close the road to vehicles on weekends and holidays.

[HopHead]

Given that it's a low volume road (hopefully it remains that way), that's no biggie to me. I'm just glad that one of the Uptown parks will finally get moving! This will do immense wonders.

[nonillogical]

looking at the updated master plan, i am MUCH happier than i initially was, and am a much bigger fan of this than i am of the plans for the 3rd ward park. the only thing i miss is the apparent removal of a small stage/performance area, but that will be easy enough to set up on the lawn when needed.

will the start of construction later this year include only the park itself within 9th/brevard/7th/lrt? or might we see the construction of market st, the garden walk east across brevard, and the proposed building next to UNCC sooner than later? the traffic calming measures to 8th st. look great, actually. given the park's layout it doesn't look like it will be dangerous at all, and i think its wise to keep the connectivity if we want the area surrounding the park to become a nice retail district.

[dubone]

I hate that I missed the public meeting last Thursday. I was away for part of week, so I must have missed the announcements.

I really like the lawns on the opposite side of Brevard. I hope that is part of it. It adds to the open space in the area.

[krazeeboi]

Hopefully both will happen and around completion in 2012 there will be some level of development activity to help grow the area around those two parks.

http://charmeck.org/Departments/Park+and+Rec/Inside+The+Department/Divisions/Park+Planning/FirstWard.htm

This is the first time I've seen the concept of two-levels of balconies on the Dixies Building. I like the idea.

They've also updated the design somewhat significantly, although the elements are the same:

http://charmeck.org/NR/rdonlyres/euf4wwdhsbqmkl7swr4gmz4anfh3327tr46jsf7kxihfmhi2dau6lpd776slqytzfykysekzrhdzk36k5i3ckcqptdh/masterplan.pdf

They should go for the fancy wrought-iron like you see on balconies in New Orleans, Savannah, Charleston, etc. That would be cool.

[Urbanity]

I'm digging how you can the UNC building frame is starting to become more visible in the skyline (particularly from Brookshire coming from 77) I think when that is completed and lit at night you're going to get a nice extension of view of the city from that angle.

[AuLukey]

I'm not sure about the total height, but from 277 this thing looks pretty topped out. I may be wrong, I haven't heard anything about it in awhile. If it is, it isn't nearly as tall as I had previously expected, probably doesn't help that we were driving on an elevated section though.

[Guest]

I'm not sure about the total height, but from 277 this thing looks pretty topped out. I may be wrong, I haven't heard anything about it in awhile. If it is, it isn't nearly as tall as I had previously expected, probably doesn't help that we were driving on an elevated section though.

The most recent picture I saw of it made me feel that there are two more floors to go, but I'm not sure...

[SmellyCat]

I could be wrong - and usually am - but It appears to me that they're adding an additional three floor "layer" to the top of this building compared to its rendering. So it may look like a Rubic's Cube with four rows instead of three.

[nonillogical]

by my count it is topping out now at the 12th floor. on the contrary to aussie luke's impression, i think it feels much taller (and somewhat skinnier as a result) than i had expected. i have a view of it from my parking lot and it seems to loom over everything!

[dubone]

The rendering has four 3-floor sections bringing it to 12. I had a discussion with someone else about this in person.

The 4th is the ground, but because it is more glass, it makes it sort of seem like 3 at first glance.

[New Name]

^I see what the confusion is now (I too thought they were starting another "layer" above the 4th one) - the TOP of the building is the top floor of the 4th layer - it looks like there is a curtain wall enclosing an open roofdeck - this is why it looks like the top floor currently is sitting off-kilter with the two floors below it - it's not a 5th layer - it's the open roofdeck.