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Sorry I'm not going with those little teamwork stuff. I just like the Packers. Go Farve. Yay. I am from Mississippi. I live in Hattiesburg.

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Sorry I'm not going with those little teamwork stuff.  I just like the Packers.  Go Farve.  Yay.  I am from Mississippi.  I live in Hattiesburg.

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Speaking of the pack, they did pretty well this year. Unfortunately, the Packers really don't have many good receivers and defensive talent on the team. If they can get some good secondary players, they may do better next year. It is just my two cents.

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^ Are you kidding? The Packers have very good recievers in Walker and Ferguson. The packers problem is defense. It will also bite them in the ass that they don't have a very good defense.

Pats over Eagles next week. Count on it.

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^ Are you kidding? The Packers have very good recievers in Walker and Ferguson. The packers problem is defense. It will also bite them in the ass that they don't have a very good defense.

Pats over Eagles next week. Count on it.

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They definitely did not seem to hot against Jacksonville up at Lambeau. But I guess that they must have played better the rest of the season. Oh well.

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GO PANTHERS. Next year the PANTHERS are finally going to bring the lombardi to Charlotte.

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^You mean these Panthers? :lol: Wonder if Charlotte owes us anything for mascot infringement (since 1889 baby!) :silly:

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The Carolina Panthers definately will be in contention next year. The Steelers have a good team... I think Roethlisberger's inexperience finally caught up with him in '04, but what a ride, eh?

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Jax, in some ways, I disagree with you.

This year will be good for the Jets, but many people seem to be interested in how the Falcons will do, too.

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Jax, in some ways, I disagree with you.

This year will be good for the Jets, but many people seem to be interested in how the Falcons will do, too.

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Falcons vs. Jets would make a great superbowl :)

I do think that the Jets and Falcons are both rising stars of their conferences. Could be a great year for both teams. I also expect the Vikings to be considerably better this year.

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Forgot about the Vikings. They will be another team to watch.

This is going to be a good season...if only it could hurry up and get here!

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This is the superbowl odds for next season from the Stardust and regular season over/under wins from the Plaza.

Colts ....... 4-1 .. 12

Eagles ..... 4-1 .. 11-1/2

Patriots .... 4-1 .. 11

Steelers ... 8-1 .. 10

Falcons .... 10-1 .. 9-1/2

Packers ... 12-1 .. 8-1/2

Vikings .... 14-1 .. 8-1/2

Ravens .... 15-1 .. 10

Chargers . 15-1 .. 8

Jets ......... 17-1 .. 9-1/2

Panthers .. 17-1 .. 9-1/2

Chiefs ..... 17-1 .. 8-1/2

Jaguars ... 17-1 .. 8-1/2

Bills ........ 18-1 .. 7-1/2

Broncos .. 20-1 .. 8-1/2

Raiders ... 20-1 .. 7-1/2

Cowboys . 20-1 .. 7

Rams ...... 22-1 .. 9

Seahawks 25-1 .. 9-1/2

Redskins . 30-1 .. 7-1/2

Buccaneers 30-1 .. 7

Titans ...... 35-1 .. 6-1/2

Saints ...... 40-1 .. 7-1/2

Bengals .... 40-1 .. 7

Lions ........ 50-1 .. 7-1/2

Giants ...... 50-1 .. 6-1/2

Texans ..... 60-1 .. 7

Cardinals .. 60-1 .. 6-1/2

Bears ....... 60-1 .. 5-1/2

Dolphins ... 70-1 .. 4-1/2

Browns ..... 80-1 .. 4-1/2

49ers ....... 200-1 .. 3-1/2

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I'm gonna have to try to get into the Jaguars now! No NFL Sunday Ticket for me. At least I have the nfl channel and nfl europe games to hold me over.

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sorry to bump and old topic, but I thought I would list NFL's greatest teams of all time.

#1 - The Dallas Cowboys

Total Points: 106

Total Playoff Years: 66C, 67C, 68, 69, 70SL, 71S, 72C, 73C, 75SL, 76, 77S, 78SL, 79, 80C, 81C, 82C, 83, 85, 91, 92S, 93S, 94C, 95S, 96, 98, 99, 03, 06

Without Question, the heavyweight champion of this exercise is the Dallas Cowboys. Out of towners may assume this is biased to help the home town Cowboys, but trust me, you can change the point values any way you want and the Cowboys still finish first. It should be noted, though, that the lead has been shrinking since 1995. The Steelers have cut their deficit in half since then.

#2 - The Pittburgh Steelers

Total Points: 90

Total Playoff Years: 72C, 73, 74S, 75S, 76C, 77, 78S, 79S, 82, 83, 84C, 89, 92, 93, 94C, 95SL, 96, 97C, 01C, 02, 04C, 05S

The Steelers with Cowher did not equal the Steelers with Noll, but it has still been very nice to be in Pittsburgh. With the win in Detroit at Super Bowl XL, the Steelers blew past the 49ers into 2nd place.

#3 - The San Francisco 49ers

Total Points: 85

Total Playoff Years: 70C, 71C, 72, 81S, 83C, 84S, 85, 86, 87, 88S, 89S, 90C, 92C, 93C, 94S, 95, 96, 97C, 98, 01, 02

The first team to win 5 Super Bowls, and still undefeated in the Super Bowl at 5-0, the 49ers resume is solid. They obviously have not done too much since Steve Young was injured, but the quality from Montana to Young and from Walsh to Seifert put them into the top group.

#4 - The Oakland Raiders

Total Points: 77

Total Playoff Years: 67SL, 68C, 69C, 70C, 72, 73C, 74C, 75C, 76S, 77C, 80S, 82, 83S, 84, 85, 90C, 91, 93, 00C, 01, 02SL

The Raiders were always the bridesmaid in the 1970's and if it wasn't for the Steelers they would have been Champions plenty more. But, with the two titles in the 1980's with Tom Flores, the point total vaulted them into the top group.

#5 - The Denver Broncos

Total Points: 57

Total Playoff Years: 77SL, 78, 79, 83, 84, 86SL, 87SL, 89SL, 91C, 93, 96, 97S, 98S, 00, 03, 04, 05C

The Broncos have certainly had many quality teams, mostly due to the John Elway era. But make no mistake, 1 player does not elevate a franchise to the top 5 in the NFL. 6 Super Bowl appearances is very impressive for anyone, and now with decent post-Elway runs, they are the best of the rest.

#6 - The Miami Dolphins

Total Points: 57

Total Playoff Years: 70, 71SL, 72S, 73S, 74, 78, 79, 81, 82SL, 83, 84SL, 85C, 90, 92C, 94, 95, 97, 98, 99, 00, 01

The Dolphins level of quality is among the best in the AFC, but falls short of the top 5. Since 1973, the Dolphins have been close, but no cigar. Still the only team to navigate through a season undefeated, the Dolphins have a proud past.

#7 - The Washington Redskins

Total Points: 55

Total Playoff Years: 71, 72SL, 73, 74, 76, 82S, 83SL, 84, 86C, 87S, 90, 91S, 92, 99, 05

Let's not kid ourselves - since 1992, when Joe Gibbs and the boys exited stage left, things have not been very good in Washington. Despite that, they are merely a few points out of the top 5 proving that they have a very solid resume in the Allen/Gibbs eras.

#8 - The New England Patriots

Total Points: 54

Total Playoff Years: 76, 78, 82, 85SL, 86, 94, 96SL, 97, 98, 01S, 03S, 04S, 05, 06C

The first time I did this study, New England was well out of the mix. They were ranked somewhere in the bottom third of the league in 2000. But since then, Brady and Belichick have added up 37 points in 6 seasons, shooting up into #8. That deserves a "wow".

#9 - The Green Bay Packers

Total Points: 50

Total Playoff Years: 66S, 67S, 72, 82, 93, 94, 95C, 96S, 97SL, 98, 01, 02, 03, 04

Green Bay has had some HUGE gaps in their runs. After Lombardi left in 1967, they accomplished nearly nothing until hiring Mike Holmgren and Ron Wolf in 1992. They get the tie-breaker with the Rams for #9 due to the total number of Super Bowl wins (3) to the Rams (1).

#10 - The St Louis/Los Angeles Rams

Total Points: 50

Total Playoff Years: 67, 69, 73, 74C, 75C, 76C, 77, 78C, 79SL, 80, 83, 84, 85C, 86, 88, 89C, 99S, 00, 01SL, 03, 04

There is no question that the Rams and the Vikings have some of the best consistent quality over the course of the last 40 years. The Rams lost in 6 different NFC Championship Games, and lost two more Super Bowls. From 1973 to 1989, the Rams may have had the best run of anyone in the NFC, but only 1 Lombardi trophy.

#11 - The Minnesota Vikings

Total Points: 48

Total Playoff Years: 68, 69SL, 70, 71, 73SL, 74SL, 75, 76SL, 77C, 78, 80, 82, 87C, 88, 89, 92, 93, 94, 96, 97, 98C, 99, 00C, 04

Without question, no team in football has had more good teams and won less than the Minnesota Vikings. Look at the playoff years that demonstrates no lengthy gaps between playoff caliber teams. But, alas, despite always being in the hunt, the Vikings have never closed the deal. Snakebit is an understatement.

#12 - Indianapolis/Baltimore Colts

Total Points: 47

Total Playoff Years: 68SL, 70S, 71C, 75, 76, 77, 87, 95C, 96, 99, 00, 02, 03C, 04, 05, 06S

With 11 big points in 2007, the Colts are fresh off their First Super Bowl win in 36 years. The Colts had nice teams in the Shula and post-Shula eras, then some decent Bert Jones squads. Beyond that, and the 1995 Harbaugh run, it is all about Peyton Manning. And with him in his prime, they will be higher up this list in no time.

#13 - The New York Giants

Total Points: 36

Total Playoff Years: 81, 84, 85, 86S, 89, 90S, 93, 97, 00SL, 02, 05, 06

The Giants won two Super Bowls in 5 years (lest we forget) and compiled many points during the Parcells years. Before and since, it has been pretty slim pickings - save for the Super Bowl run in 2000. Nothing wrong with #13 on the list.

#14 - The Buffalo Bills

Total Points: 34

Total Playoff Years: 66C, 74, 80, 81, 88C, 89, 90SL, 91SL, 92SL, 93SL, 95, 96, 98, 99

Close calls all around for the Bills. Four Super Bowls, four defeats. But, the quality of that team that Marv Levy put together is there for all to see as they were in the mix every year except 1994 from 88 to 96. That is impressive in the NFL these days, but still no rings.

#15 - The Chicago Bears

Total Points: 31

Total Playoff Years: 77, 79, 84C, 85S, 86, 87, 88C, 90, 91, 94, 01, 05, 06SL

If they would have won Super Bowl XLI, they would have shot all the way into 13th place. As it stands, they sit in 15th place, with the Super Bowl XX crown jewel. The Bears wish they had more to show for the 1980's powerhouse, but they sit in the top half of the league.

#16 - The Kansas City Chiefs

Total Points: 30

Total Playoff Years: 66SL, 68, 69S, 71, 86, 90, 91, 92, 93C, 94, 95, 97, 03, 06

The Chiefs barely rank in the top half of the league, and have one world title (Super Bowl IV) along with a far number of nice teams that have not quite achieved in the post-season. Overall, not bad, but their fans would have liked plenty more.

#17 - The Philadelphia Eagles

Total Points: 30

Total Playoff Years: 78, 79, 80SL, 81, 88, 89, 90, 92, 95, 96, 00, 01C, 02C, 03C, 04SL, 06

Philadelphia = 30 points. Philadelphia Before Andy Reid = 14 points. Since, Andy Reid = 16 points. I think that proves that he has done a pretty nice job for them. Still 0 Super Bowl titles, but there is no doubt that this team has been the NFC power since 2000.

#18 - The Tennessee Titans/Houston Oilers

Total Points: 28

Total Playoff Years: 67C, 69, 78C, 79C, 80, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 99SL, 00, 02C, 03

Obviously, the Oilers had some real nice teams, but never could get past the AFC title game. Then, the Titans finished 1 yard short in Super Bowl XXXIV. Therefore, they are in the midst of a number of similar teams that had some nice teams, but generally no titles (aside from the Jets).

#19 - The New York Jets

Total Points: 26

Total Playoff Years: 68S, 69, 81, 82C, 85, 86, 91, 98C, 01, 02, 04, 06

Super Bowl III is still the one shining moment for the Jets. They have had some nice years, but have not had the type of playoff runs that score many points in the Sturm Formula.

#20 - The Cleveland Browns

Total Points: 24

Total Playoff Years: 67, 68C, 69C, 71, 72, 80, 82, 85, 86C, 87C, 88, 89C, 94, 02

If only the Drive didn't happen. If only the Fumble didn't happen. If only. A rich tradition has gone by the boards since 1966.

#21 The Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Total Points: 23

Total Playoff Years: 79C, 81, 82, 97, 99C, 00, 01, 02S, 05

Tampa Bay has shot up the list since I started doing this years ago, and the last decade has pushed them from nearly dead last into the middle third of the league. All Hail, Tony Dungy and Jon Gruden as the uniform change has changed the fortune of this floor mat of the 1980's.

#22 The San Diego Chargers

Total Points: 17

Total Playoff Years: 79, 80C, 81C, 82, 92, 94SL, 95, 04, 06

With many years of decent teams that never did much in the playoffs, the Chargers have scored some points - just not as many as they would have liked. Dan Fouts and the boys never could get over the hump. But they always had nice uniforms.

#23 - The Cincinnati Bengals

Total Points: 16

Total Playoff Years: 70, 73, 75, 81SL, 82, 88SL, 90, 05

Despite 15 seasons between playoff years from 1990-2005, the Bengals used two Super Bowl losses in the 1980's to grab a decent position.

#24 - The Seattle Seahawks

Total Points: 15

Total Playoff Years: 83C, 84, 87, 88, 99, 03, 04, 05SL, 06

The Seahawks have been bad far more than they have been good, but, obviously Holmgren has the team as good as it has ever been in the history of the franchise. Once again, uniform/stadium change coincides with fortune changes.

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Very impressive work with detailed analysts dgreco :shades: And interesting too; thanks for bringing back the old topic.

It's somewhat suprising the Cowboys top the list. But I know they had plenty of glory days to fall back on. I thought the 49ers with their 5 Super Bowls would have topped them out. Of course the Steelers are in the middle of the hunt.

Will the Vikings ever close the deal?? Will anybody duplicate the undefeated season the Dolphins had?? They only played 14 regular season games back then; now they play 16; so it's unlikely. Can the Raiders get out of the basement and get anywhere near that #4 spot??

Wonder how Edgerrin James feels after all those years with the Colts?? The year he leaves for the sorry Cardinals, the Colts finally seal the deal!

Hopefully the Saints can build on last years impressive showing and climb up this chart some!

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Very impressive work with detailed analysts dgreco :shades: And interesting too; thanks for bringing back the old topic.

It's somewhat suprising the Cowboys top the list. But I know they had plenty of glory days to fall back on. I thought the 49ers with their 5 Super Bowls would have topped them out. Of course the Steelers are in the middle of the hunt.

Will the Vikings ever close the deal?? Will anybody duplicate the undefeated season the Dolphins had?? They only played 14 regular season games back then; now they play 16; so it's unlikely. Can the Raiders get out of the basement and get anywhere near that #4 spot??

Wonder how Edgerrin James feels after all those years with the Colts?? The year he leaves for the sorry Cardinals, the Colts finally seal the deal!

Hopefully the Saints can build on last years impressive showing and climb up this chart some!

the whole 10 down to 5 is interesting, because my team the patriots can make a little push and really move up quickly. But I would like to see the rankings move around a little more, it would be interesting.

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Yeah the Patriots just got alot more dangerous with WR's Randy Moss and Donte Stallworth. Tom Brady has to love it! It will be interesting to see. The Patriots have established themselves as the front-runners of the AFC ahead of the Colts IMO.

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Yeah the Patriots just got alot more dangerous with WR's Randy Moss and Donte Stallworth. Tom Brady has to love it! It will be interesting to see. The Patriots have established themselves as the front-runners of the AFC ahead of the Colts IMO.

I agree, I think they are the early favorite to win the superbowl. I think if they play well together like everyone assumes it won't even be close, once playoffs come they will just be to solid.

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I forgot to mention another free-agent signing for the Patriots; (ex.Dolphin)Wes Welker who will probably play in the slot(#3 WR) was suprisingly the Dolphins leader in receptions last season with 67. He's is also a dangerous return man. He should compliment Moss/Stallworth. They also have 2nd year WR- Chad Jackson.

The 5'-9" Welker has had to prove himself his entire football career. I think he was a "walk-on" in college?? And all's he did was become the "All-Time" Leading Punt Returner(1,761 yds.)and Punt Return TD's(8) in NCAA History at Texas Tech. But that still was not good enough to even get him drafted; he was signed as a Free-Agent in the NFL(Chargers).

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I forgot to mention another free-agent signing for the Patriots; (ex.Dolphin)Wes Welker who will probably play in the slot(#3 WR) was suprisingly the Dolphins leader in receptions last season with 67. He's is also a dangerous return man. He should compliment Moss/Stallworth. They also have 2nd year WR- Chad Jackson.

The 5'-9" Welker has had to prove himself his entire football career. I think he was a "walk-on" in college?? And all's he did was become the "All-Time" Leading Punt Returner(1,761 yds.)and Punt Return TD's(8) in NCAA History at Texas Tech. But that still was not good enough to even get him drafted; he was signed as a Free-Agent in the NFL(Chargers).

Welker will make a little impact on the team, but we already have a bundle of receivers. I think Welker will be more on Special teams. We have Brown, Charles Jackson, Randy Moss, Donte Stallworth, Wes Welker, Reche Caldwell, and Jabar Gaffney. We also have some good tight ends Kyle Brady, David Thomas, and Ben Watson.

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wow, are u serious? Your 70's teams with bradshaw had to use steroids to win championships. Dallas is the best hands down. No team carries the prestige as the Dallas Cowboys do. Americas Team. Most watched team week in and week out and fans through out the whoooooole country.

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