Condos on Westin parking deck

[Charlotte_native]

Good point. On looking at the top of the sign, there's plenty of weathering...

BOOOOOO!

I was really hoping to see that built. I love the concept and already love how the Westin stands at the edge of 277 -- my friends from out of town always talk about it which inevitably makes us have drinks there...

[dubone]

Here is the thread in which it was discussed, although that thread went off the deep end fast .

http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.ph...st&p=190177

I think it was Office tower then Condos but I think for the most part it is just waiting.

But that sign is definitely old.

[DigitalSky]

Oh i dig that cube look too

[Nostyle]

I don't think I've ever seen this particular rendering, where the building only takes up half the width of the Westin...

[fulcrumsf]

Yeah I think they where waiting on the deciding fator of who was going to win the Nascar HOF. Now that it has been decieded I hope they move on with this project. I wonder if they are now waiting on fruitation of the Wachovia.

[cltheel.sdl]

I don't think I've ever seen this particular rendering, where the building only takes up half the width of the Westin...

Yeah, the old rendering I saw with this was a longer and shorter office tower than the one pictured in this rendering. Maybe it is a new one! I like this taller and skinnier design better, even though it is practically the same as the old one.

[Charlotte_native]

Yeah, the old rendering I saw with this was a longer and shorter office tower than the one pictured in this rendering. Maybe it is a new one! I like this taller and skinnier design better, even though it is practically the same as the old one.

Anything built there would be fantastic -- I really love the view of the Westin so adding to it, drawing the skyline a bit more South is always good to me. Maybe they are holding out with luxury condos, if that is the final decision, to see how everyone else fares, how competing properties do in the market. I can't imagine, if they are watching, that 210 sales wouldn't make some people get old files back out to review.

[dubone]

The skinnier/taller office building was the original rendering, that was with a skinnier/taller Westin. The current rendering seen above has been the latest for years.

[gamecocksfan]

It could also be possible that Portman is waiting to see if there is demand to add additional rooms and banquet space. When the convention center adds the new ballroom in the NASCAR HOF, wouldnt it be a good investment for Portman to build an additional tower maybe with condos included like the Twelve project?

[dubone]

I agree, it has always made much more sense to me that they save that pad for a Westin hotel expansion, rather than an different use.

However, I can see strong benefits to either.

[turbocraig]

If Portman does expand and build a second structure as a hotel and/or condo building, then I'd expect it to look nothing like that fat cube. It's fine for office, but I can't imagine having that many internal (aka - no window) rooms. That's a large floorplate with a lot of internal space for such a use.

[AuLukey]

If Portman does expand and build a second structure as a hotel and/or condo building, then I'd expect it to look nothing like that fat cube. It's fine for office, but I can't imagine having that many internal (aka - no window) rooms. That's a large floorplate with a lot of internal space for such a use.

Well, they could keep the overall cube shape with a courtyard in the center to avoid that issue.

[dubone]

As there is now talk that Portman may revive this as a speculative office tower, I thought I'd bump this thread.

[A2]

As there is now talk that Portman may revive this as a speculative office tower, I thought I'd bump this thread.

[Charlotte_native]

This is one tower that will be built within the next 12 moths (mark time and date of this post)

A2

[A2]

You were very busy today!

[Dale]

Lord! you Charlotteans are greedy. Get an office tower in the morning. Bored with that and off and talking about another in the afternoon.

[monsoon]

It's amazing this has come back to life. This was one of the very first projects that we talked about here back in 2004 when we started this forum and before the huge waves of projects that were announced in 2005.

[dubone]

It also seemed to fall off so fast. Then it was all the buzz for condos, and then that fall off fast, too. It will be very interesting if they just go and build it now. They have the foundation, and a very good location so close to the convention center and the Wachovia campus.

[NVQ]

Yeah I don't think that spot has a snowball's chance in hell at ever being a condo tower.

It will eventually be built as an office tower, but it's just a matter of finding a large enough tenant. It is very attractive space with below aveage rents for Class A uptown space and a parking ration of 2.5-3 spaces per 1,000 sq. ft. which is far superior to most any other tower downtown. I think if they would build it on spec they could easily lease it, but as has been stated many times, lenders don't loan money for spec office in Charlotte.

[monsoon]

Just a reminder of what it was supposed to look like.

[queensguy06]

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they have added a couple of stories to this project.

[dubone]

I wonder if it will be condos or offices Frankly, I hope it is offices, but I'll be content with either.

I've never loved the design of this add on building. If it turns out to be condos, it would probably not look as plain, although it could still look ordinary.

[uptownliving]

Word on the street is that some Portman Holdings (the people that own Westin Charlotte) executives were in town recently to meet about the office tower... no official word yet, but it does appear this thing has come back from the dead.

[AuLukey]

although I love the cubism of this tower, I wish it were taller. I mean if you are going to destroy the southern view from the Westin, you may as well make something of it.