Charlotte Greenways and Trails

[pathb 783]

17 hours ago, stiluvclt said:

What's the prognosis on the Brandywine (behind Park Road Shopping Center) part of the greenway?

 

https://charlottenc.gov/Projects/Pages/XCLTBrandywineTyvola.aspx

That segment has (finally) moved to construction.  There are signs up for an on-street connection between the existing end points of the greenway, but I've heard staking and preliminary earthwork is going on down by the creek.  

[InSouthPark 842]

39 minutes ago, pathb said:

https://charlottenc.gov/Projects/Pages/XCLTBrandywineTyvola.aspx

That segment has (finally) moved to construction.  There are signs up for an on-street connection between the existing end points of the greenway, but I've heard staking and preliminary earthwork is going on down by the creek.  

Work start a few months ago but I have seen zero work since from Tyvola to Park Rd.  They cleared trees and now just sits. I walk/run this section everyday and it's sad to see no new progress (at least from that end).

[KJHburg 67701]

what if anything is the works for the missing link of the Rail trail on the South Blvd. side in Southend between Atherton and Publix Camden Southview.  Atlanta that huge city down south has a private public partnership raising money for trails all over the ATL why can't that happen in the CLT?    Few miscellaneous shots and believe me I was distant from peoples on the Rail Trail.   3rd photo is the missing link on that side behind Autobell and behind Off Broadway store? 

last photo I don't think these silk flowers have taken root yet LOL.  Plus a little bit of astroturf for some apartments I think Bainbridge's complex. 

Edited April 18, 2020 by KJHburg

[EllAyyDub 796]

On 4/18/2020 at 3:43 PM, KJHburg said:

what if anything is the works for the missing link of the Rail trail on the South Blvd. side in Southend between Atherton and Publix Camden Southview. 

Edens/Crescent is completing the section from Tremont to Publix.  The City owns the section b/w Camden and the MPV building (behind the Autobell).  Then Asana owns the Off-Broadway parcel.  I don't know the timing or plans for those last two sections.

[kermit 11927]

 

[kermit 11927]

Our own  Orulz has put together a really nice analysis of potential rail trails in Raleigh. This is exactly the sort of forward looking approach to transportation that NC cities need a LOT more of.  The recognition of the limitations of greenways (which typically run along creeks) for transportation was important and there were some good suggestions of strategies (rail trails) to rectify those problems.   Flip through, I highly recommend it!

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ojEf1Qp-JYGdSrHKjpwkX-k5oSwUejght5nbwYSMp4k/edit#slide=id.g83fab87b78_1_92

(I was a little surprised by the lack of reference to CLT)

 

Edited April 22, 2020 by kermit

[sakami 570]

Not sure where to put this but The Observer reported that the city is going to close some streets to allow for pedestrian zones in a Shared Street program. As someone who lives on one of the streets listed as a potential option I would love more details about how long the closures would be in place.
 

https://charlottenc.gov/Transportation/Programs/Pages/CharlotteSharedStreets.aspx

[kermit 11927]

The number of pedestrians and bikers in Dilworth has been truly astounding over the past 6 weeks.

[stw52 165]

I was on the greenway at Archdale this morning and was asked if you are allowed / possible to kayak on the creek? Anyone know? It wold be great if you are allowed, but maybe there is some reason you cannot that I'm unaware of.

[cmwilson24 51]

On 4/30/2020 at 8:31 PM, sakami said:

Not sure where to put this but The Observer reported that the city is going to close some streets to allow for pedestrian zones in a Shared Street program. As someone who lives on one of the streets listed as a potential option I would love more details about how long the closures would be in place.
 

https://charlottenc.gov/Transportation/Programs/Pages/CharlotteSharedStreets.aspx

This is a great idea, but has been a total flop so far due to lack of compliance and enforcement - at least on the Westfield section.  At all times of day I’ve noticed cars blowing past the “road closed” signs, and not stopping at houses on the street.  Without enforcement, having the city encourage kids to ride their bike in the street is a disaster waiting to happen  

[sakami 570]

6 hours ago, cmwilson24 said:

This is a great idea, but has been a total flop so far due to lack of compliance and enforcement - at least on the Westfield section.  At all times of day I’ve noticed cars blowing past the “road closed” signs, and not stopping at houses on the street.  Without enforcement, having the city encourage kids to ride their bike in the street is a disaster waiting to happen  

Yup I had a friend tell me she went to the P-M Harris Teeter and vaguely see the sign out of the corner of her eye but it wasn’t even in the street so she and a bunch of other cars just drove right on through without even thinking about what it meant. 
I sent an email to CDOT asking for a lot more details about how this would work and the response I got was “we are advocating for people to share the already low speed residential streets with all modes of transportation”.  I think people are expecting an Open Streets model and that is not what is happening. 

[WEM 39]

I was enjoying the cool weather we had Friday morning and snapped these pictures along the Little Sugar Creek Greenway:

 

End of the greenway so far, at I-485 near Pineville

 

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And this is the other end, on the north side of Tyvola.  This is looking north towards where the  Tyvola to Brandywine connection is going.  No signs of construction, going on 6 months.  Does anyone have any input on why they haven't done anything on this section? 

Edited June 13, 2020 by WEM

[tarhoosier 5371]

There is a major collection of earth moving equipment at the vacant lot corner of Selwyn and Park and orange construction fencing there which indicates work is imminent.

[dubone 1573]

That vacant lot will be the pocket park entrance to this section of the greenway.   It will be exciting to have this section finished and be able to from Cordelia to 485. 

[kermit 11927]

The county seriously needs to speed up construction!

 

[tarhoosier 5371]

Noticeable progress at Park Road and Selwyn intersection. Equipment has moved down near the water or somewhere out of sight. Street level access is cleared and obvious now.

[NYtoCLT 216]

1 hour ago, kermit said:

The county seriously needs to speed up construction!

 

Honestly the number would be WAY higher than 69% if the greenways were more robust/connected.  If they were connected enough to provide a viable way for people to bike/scoot to work (if/when people commute to work again) without being next to cars, usage would skyrocket.

[kermit 11927]

^ and related. Bicycle infrastructure has been shown to significantly increase residential property values (suggesting a TIF or TIFish funding strategy makes sense)

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0042098020926034

 

[EllAyyDub 796]

On 7/1/2020 at 2:10 PM, tarhoosier said:

Noticeable progress at Park Road and Selwyn intersection. Equipment has moved down near the water or somewhere out of sight. Street level access is cleared and obvious now.

Big time equipment and some sort of building materials on site here. Can’t be done fast enough!

[WEM 39]

A lot of respect to the guys working in this heat.   

[InSouthPark 842]

44 minutes ago, WEM said:

A lot of respect to the guys working in this heat.   

Interesting that they are narrowing the creek there.  It is quite steep behind Lucky Lou's and I was wondering how they were going to be able to run the greenway on that side of the creek.  Great to see some progress after months of being halted in the early spring. 

When done, that will be a huge boom to that shopping center.  Coffee at Mugs, burger and beer and Lucky Lou's, pizza at Portofino's, etc.  

Edit:  This section will flood out regularly.  Hope they have good construction methods!

Edited July 27, 2020 by InSouthPark

[WEM 39]

45 minutes ago, InSouthPark said:

When done, that will be a huge boom to that shopping center.  Coffee at Mugs, burger and beer and Lucky Lou's, pizza at Portofino's, etc.  

See, I would agree 100%, but from what I can tell they are not connecting the greenway to the shopping center.  I could be wrong, but the map on the XCLT website doesn't show a connection.  Maybe the shopping center would fund a connection, but someone would have to make a business case for it.

Reference map:

https://charlottenc.gov/Projects/Documents/BrandywineTyvolaMap.pdf

[MothBeast 87]

13 minutes ago, WEM said:

See, I would agree 100%, but from what I can tell they are not connecting the greenway to the shopping center.  I could be wrong, but the map on the XCLT website doesn't show a connection.  Maybe the shopping center would fund a connection, but someone would have to make a business case for it.

Reference map:

https://charlottenc.gov/Projects/Documents/BrandywineTyvolaMap.pdf

Maybe I am missing something but that map seems to clearly show a "greenway connection" right behind the Michael's

[tozmervo 8366]

2 minutes ago, MothBeast said:

Maybe I am missing something but that map seems to clearly show a "greenway connection" right behind the Michael's

It even shows a rendering of a greenway bridge to make that connection.

[WEM 39]

1 minute ago, MothBeast said:

Maybe I am missing something but that map seems to clearly show a "greenway connection" right behind the Michael's

The other shopping center on park rd.  Near Selwyn and park.  Although I'm pretty sure I did read that they nixed that bridge shown on the map, but you can still cross the road bridge on the foot wide sidewalk.