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so in essence we're going to see a parking deck akin to Wachovia's or Florida Hospital's.

This is big. I mean, we've had Gaylord, JW, Ritz, Omni, and now Shingle Creek go up in the last 5 years, but this is so important for the OCCC. It just might influence the construction of the Hyatt and Hilton in that area. THis will really help CVB book future events and help close the gap with Vegas and widen the gap with Chicago.

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so in essence we're going to see a parking deck akin to Wachovia's or Florida Hospital's.

This is big. I mean, we've had Gaylord, JW, Ritz, Omni, and now Shingle Creek go up in the last 5 years, but this is so important for the OCCC. It just might influence the construction of the Hyatt and Hilton in that area. THis will really help CVB book future events and help close the gap with Vegas and widen the gap with Chicago.

Orlando would destroy Vegas if we legalized gambling... We could seriously benefit from it.

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Too many bad things come with gambling. I might not mind one classy casino to provide another option of entertainment. New Orleans was smart in how they brought in Harrah's. It's one large and nice casino near the French Quarter and Riverwalk, but it doesn't overwhelm everything else. Vegas is a one trick pony with the gambling, granted it works well for them, but it might eventually become less of a draw with almost every state starting to allow gambling in one way or another. I'm surprised the Seminoles haven't figured out a way yet to get into the Oralndo market. Even Pittsburgh has a couple plans on the table to build a casino complex. One would help fund a new arena to keep the Pengiuns from moving. HEY, there's an idea...

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Too many bad things come with gambling. I might not mind one classy casino to provide another option of entertainment. New Orleans was smart in how they brought in Harrah's. It's one large and nice casino near the French Quarter and Riverwalk, but it doesn't overwhelm everything else. Vegas is a one trick pony with the gambling, granted it works well for them, but it might eventually become less of a draw with almost every state starting to allow gambling in one way or another. I'm surprised the Seminoles haven't figured out a way yet to get into the Oralndo market. Even Pittsburgh has a couple plans on the table to build a casino complex. One would help fund a new arena to keep the Pengiuns from moving. HEY, there's an idea...

Bad things come with poverty as well, and when Disney gets old people are not going to have jobs here.

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I don't think Disney can get old. It attracts a niche crowd (everybody, more or less), and has become a resort more than anything else. Now, many non-disney resorts are popping up everywhere which is transforming the region into a resort-meeting town. Vegas is a gambling-resort-meeting town.

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Now, relating problems with casinos is a correlational study and holds little true evidence.

Disney and the other theme parks won't get "old" as they purposely change attractions to meet the desires of the audience. What the theme parks do bring job wise is minimum wage. That could be considered a problem.

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Now, relating problems with casinos is a correlational study and holds little true evidence.

Disney and the other theme parks won't get "old" as they purposely change attractions to meet the desires of the audience. What the theme parks do bring job wise is minimum wage. That could be considered a problem.

Here's a correlation for you ... of sorts:

There is and will continue to be a non-correlation between Orlando and casinos. ;)

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Here's a correlation for you ... of sorts:

There is and will continue to be a non-correlation between Orlando and casinos. ;)

Totally concur. Orlando has a disproportionate minimum-wage work force. The last thing we need is another giant minimum-wage industry; attracting job seekers who won't be making a "living wage" and thus burdening the school system, social services, and law enforcement. Also, when the majority of jobs in an area pay $6.00/hour then crime looks very enticing. I'd like for the area to attract higher-paying industries while fading out the minimum-wage industries.

That's just me.

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Totally concur. Orlando has a disproportionate minimum-wage work force. The last thing we need is another giant minimum-wage industry; attracting job seekers who won't be making a "living wage" and thus burdening the school system, social services, and law enforcement. Also, when the majority of jobs in an area pay $6.00/hour then crime looks very enticing. I'd like for the area to attract higher-paying industries while fading out the minimum-wage industries.

That's just me.

Without casinos Orlando blows Vegas out of the water in terms of crime. The more people here, the more taxes you can make off of them, not to mention the amount of money that would be put into the casinos. I am not talking massive strip full of casinos and such, I am saying some resorts here and there. Kind of like the casino area in Sydney. Gambling doesnt cause as many problems as people think, they just see it as immoral. There is already a problem with illegal gambling here, due to the fact that it is illegal and unprotected by the police. I just think it would make the total package... parks and craps... who wouldnt want that? Screw Vegas... take the kids to Disney and at night we can hit the lobby for some video poker... Not to mention the beaches just an hour away... Maybe I look at it from a purely economic standpoint. Oh well, we are capitalists right?

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Maybe I look at it from a purely economic standpoint. Oh well, we are capitalists right?

Economics? That's exactly what I'm talking about. Thousands and thousand of minimum wage jobs is not good economics. I don't give a poop about vagas. Why is Orlando's crime rate so high? I think it's because incomes are so low. I think it's silly to say the economy is just about the number of jobs. It's about the quality of jobs and size of the paychecks. While the low income workers do pay taxes, they don't pay enough taxes to cover the services they require. If you bring in another 40,000 workers and give them $6 an hour, it becomes a major burdon on roads, schools, medical and a host of other things that their taxes don't begin to cover, causing either a reduction in service quality or an disportionate tax burden on those who can afford higher taxes. Probably both.

Yes it is great for the tourists but not for the locals. Don't even talk about the bed tax. That money is totally controlled by the Rosens of the world and they don't share it with the community. It only goes to build infrastructor for the tourist industry so they can make more money, which they don't share with their employees.

Yep, I'm a capitalist. But what we have here is a burden on the majority so that a very few people can become enormously wealthy. I don't mind people becoming wealthy, but not at my expense!

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Economics? That's exactly what I'm talking about. Thousands and thousand of minimum wage jobs is not good economics. I don't give a poop about vagas. Why is Orlando's crime rate so high? I think it's because incomes are so low. I think it's silly to say the economy is just about the number of jobs. It's about the quality of jobs and size of the paychecks. While the low income workers do pay taxes, they don't pay enough taxes to cover the services they require. If you bring in another 40,000 workers and give them $6 an hour, it becomes a major burdon on roads, schools, medical and a host of other things that their taxes don't begin to cover, causing either a reduction in service quality or an disportionate tax burden on those who can afford higher taxes. Probably both.

Yes it is great for the tourists but not for the locals. Don't even talk about the bed tax. That money is totally controlled by the Rosens of the world and they don't share it with the community. It only goes to build infrastructor for the tourist industry so they can make more money, which they don't share with their employees.

Yep, I'm a capitalist. But what we have here is a burden on the majority so that a very few people can become enormously wealthy. I don't mind people becoming wealthy, but not at my expense!

You hit the nail right on the head. Tourism levels in Orlando would not increase with the addition of casinos in town, classy or otherwise. In fact, our target demographic would probably suffer. That said, even if it became a plausible scenario, I don't think that government officials would even allow gambling to happen properly. Look at Hard Rock Tampa, it is a slot machine hall. You cannot play any games where the house losses money. No black jack, no roulette, no creaps. It's just not gambling. I say leave gambling to Vegas. There is enough of a tourism market in the world for everyone to have their niche.

The bottom line: If Vegas opened a Disney complex the whole world would say the same thing if we opened casinos "it's just not the same". Stick with what works. Orlando needs to build their own identity.

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Well, someone's making coin, based on all the new houses being built. Plus, i doubt everyone moving here every year is just quitting their jobs and blindly moving here with their families hopes in their hands, and in turn settling on WalMart as an employer. However, there are an inordinate number of WalMarts here.

Orlando will start making new waves in the convention industry now. Peabody will allow CVB to snag some shows for 2007 or 2008 and beyond now. Other hotel projects will see the bookings of these conventions and will use those numbers to justify their construction. Its the chicken and egg falacy.

It all begins with booking those shows, and it doesn't hurt if the banks are also willing to loan the $$$. Speaking of $$$, any news on Unicorp and the Aqua proposal?

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Blue Rose to tower above I-Drive hotels

Bob Mervine

Staff Writer

A group of South Florida developers are planning Orlando's tallest high-rise hotel, a $500 million-plus condominium hotel with more than 1,300 units, 75,000 square feet of meeting space and its own 1,000-seat Broadway-style theater, performing a three-hour nightly musical review.

http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/stories...tml?jst=b_ln_hl

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This is very exciting news that we are gonna have permanant broadway show. Hopefully this will start the trend for a show towns in orlando.

Sad part is that they are gonna have a theater in Downtown OC with permanant shows but nothing in downtown ORlando

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