American Tobacco Historic District

[KJHburg]

some drive bys today and the site of the huge expansion by Hines and Capitol Broadcasting on the old car dealer site.  

[SydneyCarton]

The Hines project will really transform Durham.  I can't wait for it. 

[KJHburg]

couple more from Friday of the new 555 Mangum office tower home of PolicyGenius 2nd HQ and the Van Allen apartment tower.  across from the ATC campus. 

 

[KJHburg]

this 555 Mangum building is great looking drive by on the freeway. 

[SydneyCarton]

9 hours ago, KJHburg said:

this 555 Mangum building is great looking drive by on the freeway. 

I agree.  The facade is really impressive. 

[nicholas]

Can't remember what the name is, but I think these are the affordable apartments next to ATC2.

[nicholas]

Looks like a lot of utilities work outside of the ATC2 lot.  The 600 Willard apartments just out of the photo on the right looked to be complete.

[SydneyCarton]

I assume that that’s in preparation for Hines’ project on the old Kia/Ford site.

[SydneyCarton]

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article251213339.html

[DPK]

On 5/10/2021 at 10:07 AM, SydneyCarton said:

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article251213339.html

Think you posted that in the wrong thread.  Midtown Exchange isn't ATC related.

[SydneyCarton]

2 hours ago, DPK said:

Think you posted that in the wrong thread.  Midtown Exchange isn't ATC related.

There's a photo of several Triangle projects including the ATC.   

[DPK]

On 5/11/2021 at 1:50 PM, SydneyCarton said:

There's a photo of several Triangle projects including the ATC.   

Ah, I'd recommend clarifying the next time as I think the photo is only in the video and the article and pictures in it are only of Midtown Exchange.

[nicholas]

Utility work appears to be done.

Guess I'll throw this pic in here too.  Drove past this lot which said future site of Durham Bulls minor league field.  Hadn't heard of this before now, it's located on the far side of 147 at Blackwell and Morehead.  Appears to be two parcels involved, a small one which is owned by American Campus V, and a larger one which is owned by Miracle League of the Triangle.

Edited July 6, 2021 by nicholas

[rancenc]

Could this be the home for Google's new NC operations??

https://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/news/2021/07/12/google-eyeing-american-tobacco-campus-expansion.html

[KJHburg]

2 hours ago, rancenc said:

Could this be the home for Google's new NC operations??

https://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/news/2021/07/12/google-eyeing-american-tobacco-campus-expansion.html

I think I mentioned this would be the perfect location for them to grow in right after they announced.  It makes a lot of sense to me downtown location, cool environment, new Class A buildings one made or both made of timber.  American Tobacco Campus Expansion - Hines

[rancenc]

Visit this section of Durham when you are looking at things to do in the city.

 

[KJHburg]

Glaxo Smith Kline moving to ATC in the Fowler building leaving the RTP.  They long sold their campus in RTP and now it home to many other companies but this is still notable. 

GlaxoSmithKline to relocate offices, hundreds of workers to Downtown Durham | WRAL TechWire

""After nearly 40 years in Research Triangle Park, British pharma giant GlaxoSmithKline (NYSE: GSK) is leaving its massive campus there for a smaller space in downtown Durham – shaving nearly half a million square feet from its footprint in the area but not cutting any jobs.  On Monday, the company announced it will be vacating its sprawling 561,652-square-foot campus in RTP for 68,000 square feet across two buildings at the American Tobacco Campus in Durham. The company is also downsizing its space in Philadelphia.""

GSK to slash RTP footprint with move to downtown Durham - Triangle Business Journal (bizjournals.com)

Edited October 4, 2021 by KJHburg

[SydneyCarton]

56 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

Glaxo Smith Kline moving to ATC in the Fowler building leaving the RTP.  They long sold their campus in RTP and now it home to many other companies but this is still notable. 

GlaxoSmithKline to relocate offices, hundreds of workers to Downtown Durham | WRAL TechWire

""After nearly 40 years in Research Triangle Park, British pharma giant GlaxoSmithKline (NYSE: GSK) is leaving its massive campus there for a smaller space in downtown Durham – shaving nearly half a million square feet from its footprint in the area but not cutting any jobs.  On Monday, the company announced it will be vacating its sprawling 561,652-square-foot campus in RTP for 68,000 square feet across two buildings at the American Tobacco Campus in Durham. The company is also downsizing its space in Philadelphia.""

GSK to slash RTP footprint with move to downtown Durham - Triangle Business Journal (bizjournals.com)

 

 

Are they moving to the new Hines buildings or to existing buildings.  I'd love to see more companies leave the RTP.  It's such a depressing area.  It reminds me of  the area in Pineville where all of those light industrial buildings are located.

[KJHburg]

11 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

 

 

Are they moving to the new Hines buildings or to existing buildings.  I'd love to see more companies leave the RTP.  It's such a depressing area.  It reminds me of  the area in Pineville where all of those light industrial buildings are located.

No moving to existing building the Fowler building part of the original campus.  I think that space in RTP will be backfilled by biopharma or others needing lab space.  I like what they are doing in the RTP with the new Hub RTP and bringing a "downtown" for the RTP. 

[DCMetroRaleigh]

1 hour ago, KJHburg said:

Glaxo Smith Kline moving to ATC in the Fowler building leaving the RTP.  They long sold their campus in RTP and now it home to many other companies but this is still notable. 

GlaxoSmithKline to relocate offices, hundreds of workers to Downtown Durham | WRAL TechWire

""After nearly 40 years in Research Triangle Park, British pharma giant GlaxoSmithKline (NYSE: GSK) is leaving its massive campus there for a smaller space in downtown Durham – shaving nearly half a million square feet from its footprint in the area but not cutting any jobs.  On Monday, the company announced it will be vacating its sprawling 561,652-square-foot campus in RTP for 68,000 square feet across two buildings at the American Tobacco Campus in Durham. The company is also downsizing its space in Philadelphia.""

GSK to slash RTP footprint with move to downtown Durham - Triangle Business Journal (bizjournals.com)

Huge!!!

[carolina1792]

Looks like an office footprint reduction. RTP is generally not for small operations and GSK has been  shrinking in this area for a while now. I think outside of major metros office tower development is going to stall severely. 

[Durham_Transplant]

This is great news for the vision of American Tobacco and downtown as a whole. Love to see more people working downtown and contributing to a more vibrant 24/7 atmosphere. The future of RTP definitely seems to be trending toward large scale lab and manufacturing facilities that truly demand large footprints. 

[KJHburg]

Little more detailed plans than I have seen for the Hines led expansion of ATC

hinesgarziavirtualvegas.com/american-tobacco-campus/

the office tower the last one maybe 17 stories 

[SydneyCarton]

2 hours ago, KJHburg said:

Little more detailed plans than I have seen for the Hines led expansion of ATC

hinesgarziavirtualvegas.com/american-tobacco-campus/

the office tower the last one maybe 17 stories 

This is going to be amazing!  My only gripe is that the water features are totally lame considering that the ATC has amazing ones.  One would have hoped that Hines would try to do something great here also.

Edited October 24, 2021 by SydneyCarton

[Durham_Transplant]

I wonder if that second residential building and office tower are still considered a “second phase” or if they plan to fast track that piece. This is the first time I’ve seen specific details published for the office tower.